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Another perspective on California.

Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:31 pm
I think some of you dont fully understand the situation in CA, so here's another viewpoint that will hopefully ease your complaints.

Why are high tax states like California rich while low tax states like Alabama/Mississippi are not?

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Taxes are an important aspect, but there are of course other factors that make people choose California over Mississippi or Alabama. I would note that while these states have lower income taxes than California, Alabama has higher sales taxes.
Weather. The weather in the populated parts of California is better than the weather in the populated parts of Alabama and Mississippi. People are willing to pay more for better weather. Add this to better scenery in general.
Universities. California is home to some of the world’s best universities. Alabama and Mississippi are not. People come from all over the country, even the world, to study at these universities. These universities include Stanford, Caltech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Harvey Mudd and many others. After studying in California, many of them decide to stay. Universities also bring companies to the state because of the talent pool.
Established industries. The entertainment industry has been centered in Southern California for nearly a century. It’s where people go to do movies. Silicon Valley has been a center of tech since the 1960s. Companies from these sectors go there because it’s where other companies are, it’s where the talent is. New York has the same advantage for financial services, although other places have been getting some of this.
Housing prices and Cost of living. California is disadvantaged here, but it is of course an issue, so it’s worth mentioning.
So California has a lot of natural advantages over other states. People are willing to pay an extra percent or five percent in income tax for the benefits it offers. Take a state that pursues California policies but without the major advantages, and you’ll find a state in trouble. Look at, for example, Rhode Island.



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California takes in a smaller “share” of federal tax dollars than it pays in. The citizens of California have chosen, historically, to fund education, environment, public health at pretty decent levels - therefore, a higher state burden is created.
The climate, available resources and the aforementioned “public goods” tend to attract and retain industry and we'll educated people. Ports help. Oil and mineral wealth helps. Net, net - CA has a GDP per capita about $10,000 higher than the nation as a whole. It's not the highest - some oil/gas states and east coast bastions of “educated elites” are higher still (Mass, Alaska, New York, etc) but California has a massive population too.
Poor southern states underinvest, historically, in that which leads to GDP growth. Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina…. Smaller states and $10,000 or more per capital UNDER the national average.

Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:34 pm to
Yes. California is a beautiful state. Too bad the people make it so insufferable
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:35 pm to
You seem like a guy who thinks people actually care about your opinions
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:35 pm to
You've started dozens of the same type threads on this board and the Poli board. It never ends
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99612 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:35 pm to
You think this perspective changes my mind that I'm getting raped on taxes to pay for the "undocumented" people pouring into this state?
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Yes. Louisiana is a beautiful state. Too bad the people make it so insufferable


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Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:43 pm to
I think 30 days as far as the configuration of the system to allow for interim billing seems reasonable, did we come to a consensus on that?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175636 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

The climate, available resources and the aforementioned “public goods” tend to attract and retain industry and we'll educated people.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Another perspective on California.


Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
8211 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:27 pm to
sucks to be you.
Posted by Muff
The dirty south.
Member since Oct 2014
552 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:43 pm to
0 fricks. down voted for shite post.
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
723 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:45 pm to
California has 16% of the US population and 34% of the welfare funds.

How's THAT perspective?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45419 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:54 pm to
CA has 40 M people. A better comparison is the SE to CA. The SE holds its on in every category. And I love CA, btw.

ETA:

It is also 90% white/Asian. Give the SE those advantages, and we will walk away with it.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted by rallyTiger
Member since Apr 2016
867 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:00 pm to
If high tax California is so great then why do all their residents keep moving to states like low tax Texas?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75885 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:10 pm to
California has now seen 150k registered residents (because this isn't guaranteed in Cali) leave the state every year since 2015.

Your middle class is disappearing in a hurry. But by all means, carry on.

Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
2693 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

California rich
I thought the state was broke?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86482 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:40 pm to
There is more poverty in California than any other state . One in five people is in poverty. Somewhere near seven and 1/2 million. Almost one in every six poor people in America is in California.

It is also ground zero for the uber rich. Entertainment and tech . The middle class is increasingly squeezed out of the housing market and so they are pouring out of the state. The poor and illegals are rushing in for benefits.

The average home in Southern California is around 550k. Far more in the San Francisco area. The schools are crumbling. Energy prices are soaring. Water is scarce an unreliable. Tax rates are among the highest in the country. California has around twelve percent of the population of the US yet one in three welfare recipients is in California. Large areas are blighted beyond recognition. There are almost 100,000 homeless people in Los Angeles alone including enormous homeless camps. There are apps that track shite on the street and heroin syringes in Northern California. There are almost One Million state and local government employees each with guaranteed retirements . It has the lowest credit rating of any state and the highest unemployment rate. I mean, I could go on...

Just sayin’.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76135 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:51 pm to
I was waiting for a volod thread that was well thought-out and intriguing.

Unfortunately I have come to realize that this is my eternal fate:

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