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re: Ancient shark fossils discovered in Kentucky's Mammoth Cave

Posted on 10/16/20 at 4:42 am to
Posted by Capstone2017
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 4:42 am to
This NPC opinion is brought to you by big oil!
Posted by DLauw
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:44 am to
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When ice cools down it expands
What? How does ice cool down? It gets colder? It freezes more?
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As the glass gets cooler, the ice turns to water and overflows the glass, proving it expands
Thats called melting (warming).
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:35 am to
The glass is clearly colder once the ice is all gone. I don’t know how you argue against that.
Posted by DaTiger
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:40 am to
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So Climate is changing?


Yes....changing for the last 4.5 billion years.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:40 am to
Muh.... Global fricking warming. Warming and cooling has been happening forever... Literally forever
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:02 am to
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Interesting tidbit about mammoth cave, cave divers are reluctant to report any additional unexplored connections to other caved as those caves would be now considered part of a national park with a slew of new regulations and jurisdiction.

That is actually very interesting.

So if the cave was expanded through additional discovery, could the government acquire the land above it by power of eminent domain?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:04 am to
I mean, it's limestone, duh.

It's almost like people have no concept of geology or science.

Posted by Animal
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:17 am to
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The earth is estimated to be 4.5 billions years old and we have idiots thinking the climate is changing after the last 150 years of humans burning fossil fuels



The shite that kills me is California has some of the toughest pollution laws in the world when it comes to air quality and all the hoops people have to jump through to comply. Yet I guarantee you, that there annual damn wildfires release more CO2 into the atmosphere than every coal plant in the US.

Manage your damn forests.
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:20 am to
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I told y’all the earth was flat.


It's the only thing that makes sense. Sometimes the earth gets tilted and water gets in Kentucky.
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:39 am to
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Yet I guarantee you, that there annual damn wildfires release more CO2 into the atmosphere than every coal plant in the US.


To be fair, the wildfire "problem" exists across the entire west. The entire western US was originally composed of fire adapted ecosystems. So, in reality, wildfires are not a problem until human structures get in the way. It's just in California people have built so densely and so close to these systems that the human impact becomes a news story.

Here's this years wildfire map. The entire western US is red.

LINK /

But how often do you hear about wildfires in Arizona, Idaho, Montana or Wyoming?
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:57 am to
I don't know if you are being serious or not
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:03 am to
Mammoth Cave is so large it actually affects the surrounding airflow, which can be felt at the entrances.
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If you are here on a warm day, you probably feel cool air blowing out of the cave. The rate of this airflow influences cave temperatures.

Summer Airflow

1) Hot surface air expands, becoming less dense, which allows relatively cooler, denser cave air to pour out through lower cave entrances.

2) A partial vacuum is created in the cave. Deep cave temperatures remain between 55 and 57 degrees Fahrenheit year-round.

3) Fresh air is drawn down through higher entrances to replace the exiting air.

Winter Airflow

1) Warm cave air rises upward through denser surface air. These upwellings may be visible as plumes of steam.

2) A partial vacuum is created in the cave

3) Cold air is drawn into lower entrances to replace the exiting air in the same way that a chimney works.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:04 am to
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So if the cave was expanded through additional discovery, could the government acquire the land above it by power of eminent domain?


That's basically what they did in the 40s and 50s after it was established (in 1941). It was privately owned before that and a highly competitive business for locals. They displaced something like 400-500 families at that time. I had family who owned property that was displaced themselves and received pennies on the dollar for what the property was actually worth.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:22 am to
I need to check out Mammoth Cave soon. I went when I was young and remember being pretty freaked out.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 10:53 am to
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I don't know if you are being serious or not


I have apparently failed in my attempt to create a geological version of a viral math problem.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:11 am to
There's sharks' teeth embedded in the ceiling of Cathedral Caverns in NE Alabama. Was actually there last weekend.
Posted by UKWildcats
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:23 am to
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Kentucky twice in the top 10. Big 2?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:23 am to
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What? How does ice cool down? It gets colder? It freezes more?


Water is its most dense at 4 degrees Celsius (assuming normal atmospheric pressure).
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:31 am to
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I need to check out Mammoth Cave soon. I went when I was young and remember being pretty freaked out.

As a child I was absolutely freaked out by caves, and my damn folks seemed to keep finding their way to them. It was the same every time. We'd go to the touristy part of a cave, and all I'd see is a big ol' dark hole in the ground, and I'd flip my shite. I'd cry and pitch a fit, almost having a legit panic attack. One of them or someone else with us would always end up staying with my while the rest of the family went on their way to certain doom.

I haven't been to many caves since I've been grown, but I still get uneasy in/near them. I suck it up and go, but I'm certainly not the happiest spelunker.
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