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re: An update, honestly if anyone cares...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:06 pm to SouthernHog
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:06 pm to SouthernHog
Dump her.
Move on to someone better.
Move on to someone better.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:07 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:To be honest, this is why I’m considering the Anglican Communion.
And that religion was started by Calvin and spread by Knox in the 1500s so it is impossible to have
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explain
As I documented earlier, Rome lost the plot. When folks tried to find it, they got kicked out.
That’s why there’s a broken line for Calvin, as he wasn’t a Catholic priest at any point, if memory serves.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:13 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:so we just ignore what Rome fixed during the Counter-Reformation?
Rome lost the plot. When folks tried to find it, they got kicked out.
The Catholic Church is holy because Christ is holy - it has nothing to do with the imbeciles that run it or work for it (like me)
quote:the church started by Henry VIII so he could get divorced?
To be honest, this is why I’m considering the Anglican Communion.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:19 pm to SouthernHog
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Ahh the “your religion isn’t as old as mine” argument.
Enjoy your coffee in the lobby and let Pastor Bob he is wrong
I can see here why she is struggling with your religion and doesn't want to go with you to the Catholic church. It's very obvious that you do not believe her religion is ok at all. You believe your church is right and hers is wrong. That comes across in this post and in all the others you have made in this thread.
Until you believe her faith is valid and is just a true and real as yours and that both are different forms of worship of the same God and have the same belief in Jesus Christ, she's going to have a problem with it. I'd suggest that changing your attitude might also change hers.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:26 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:Thats not the stance.
the church started by Henry VIII so he could get divorced?
Will try to revisit tonight.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:30 pm to LaLadyinTx
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Until you believe her faith is valid and is just a true and real as yours and that both are different forms of worship of the same God and have the same belief in Jesus Christ, she's going to have a problem with it. I'd suggest that changing your attitude might also change hers.
Isn’t the belief that the RCC is the one true church, pretty central to being RC?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:44 pm to SallysHuman
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Take turns on attending each other's preferred services.
As a recent Protestant > Catholic convert - Easter 2023 - it’s my understanding that Catholics are discouraged from attending non-Catholic church services. Maybe a wedding or other special occasion for close family, etc., but otherwise no.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:12 pm to bayoubengals88
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That's a modern (and I mean that technically) lie. You just described disembodied/gnostic DIY religion. There's almost nothing of substance to it.
That’s not what I described, fricknuts.
You cherrypicked one sentence out of an entire overarching point.
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Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Sitting in a pew is important, but WHICH pew is far less important than the relationship clearly stated above.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:13 pm to SouthernHog
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tried to tell her, her Church only started in 1500.
As opposed to the catholic church
Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:56 pm to MoarKilometers
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2 Corinthians 6:14, you both should've considered this from day 1.
Spotted the Protetstant.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:25 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:Rome made no theological changes during Trent. They only attempted to clean house of corruption.
so we just ignore what Rome fixed during the Counter-Reformation?
Even indulgences remained.
They merely banned the paid office of Indulgence Seller.
Unchecked papal primacy remained unchecked, and all of the rigid systems of canon law, including the entire Fourth Lateran Council, remained unchanged.
No cup for the laity still.
And on top of that, all of those nasty anathemas were dished out.
Not a false church, just one that needed to return to a bit of apostolic simplicity, allowing love to rule, not rules themselves.
Regarding the Church of England, it existed for 1,000+ years before the 1534 Act of supremacy.
The only thing Henry did was take the church, who was already essentially Lutheran, out of the jurisdiction of an excessively powerful and overreaching papacy. And then, it merely continued on.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:29 pm to Longhorn Actual
quote:It was an extremely vulnerable sentence that deserved a bit of criticism.
You cherrypicked one sentence out of an entire overarching point.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:46 pm to SouthernHog
quote:A bit of background... I grew up in the Lutheran church (ELCA) and went to a Catholic high school. My oldest kid was baptized at my grandparent's church (WELS) and my youngest was at the church we attended in Florida (LCMS). My wife grew up not going to church but a believer (married in the Methodist church in her hometown). The owner of the company where my wife is a VP is a big supporter of the Vineyard. She wanted to try going there so I played the good husband.
She is the kind that needs the feel good Gospel and Concert for church.
I hate non-traditional church services. If I want to see a concert I'll go to the arena. I can watch online sermons that are based in the Bible that don't feel like pitches. The breaking point for me was attending the Vineyard on a "baptism" day and I walked out the second their fundraising preacher said youth baptisms/confirmations were invalid. So I watch the occasional service on TV/YouTube and know God doesn't need my physical attendance at a church. The sad thing is this younger generation doesn't go and doesn't believe.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:08 pm to LaLadyinTx
You just made the point. Her church and any other church other than the Catholic Church and some orthodox churches are not valid. One church was started by Christ. Be wary of false prophets. others are man-made. In very simple terms, he told us how he wanted to be worshiped and what the path of heaven was. Unfortunately starting with Martin Luther men had other ideas. It is very easy to justify our choices. It is very hard to follow Christ request. As stated before the Catholic Church is a way of life. It’s living a life that Christ has laid out for us. It’s not always easy and evil is very close to it
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:11 pm to fr33manator
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She sounds like a Huguenot...and you know what we do to Huegenots
That's how my family got here in 1693... or 1701, or 1715 or some such
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:20 pm to Bowstring1
quote:You must be painfully unaware of the Papacy during The Middle Ages, though I’ve provided much information in this thread.
One church was started by Christ. Be wary of false prophets. others are man-made. In very simple terms, he told us how he wanted to be worshiped and what the path of heaven was. Unfortunately starting with Martin Luther men had other ideas. It is very easy to justify our choices. It is very hard to follow Christ request.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:23 pm to GRTiger
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Disaster waiting to happen if they both take their faith seriously.
If either takes it so seriously that it stands between them, then they shouldn't be together in the first place.
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What do the kids do?
Take them to both, let them decide as they get older.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:43 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:right because it didn’t need to make any theological changes
Rome made no theological changes during Trent.
quote:what is the problem with this?
Unchecked papal primacy remained unchecked, and all of the rigid systems of canon law, including the entire Fourth Lateran Council, remained unchanged.
quote:uhhh - that isn’t the case nowadays
No cup for the laity still.
quote:because they go against core beliefs of the Catholic Church? If you know what the Catholic Church stands for - then why would these be a problem? Transubstantiation is a big one, Original Sin, etc.
all of those nasty anathemas were dished out.
quote:no, it didn’t - Augustine of Canterbury was sent to England to convert Anglo-Saxons in the late 500s but he went in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church - there was no separate church
it existed for 1,000+ years before the 1534 Act of supremacy
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:50 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:so because a few powerful men who shouldn’t have become pope became pope the Catholic Church should be discredited? Humans are not perfect and we all do stupid things, especially when put into a position of power. But none of the theology changed then, what we believe in is still the same
You must be painfully unaware of the Papacy during The Middle Ages, though I’ve provided much information in this thread.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:59 pm to bayoubengals88
No, I am aware of it. But I try not to focus on the things that men say and do. Again the world in the church is full of false prophets and evil.” thou Art Peter, and upon this rock, I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against thee” maybe I am childlike, but I will always try to follow what Christ said, as opposed to what man says…. I am pretty sure that’s what he asked for.
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