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re: An oil change at the Mercedes dealership nowadays will basically cost you five hundy.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:46 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:46 pm to wareaglepete
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Real Japanese cars, like made in the land of the rising sun, not made in America, are the way to go. Best quality.
Or Mexico, for that matter....like my Tacoma.
I lucked out. My Mazda was made in Japan. Not all of them are. Didn't go seeking that, but it makes a difference. working on 200k. Absolutely nothing has broken. No bulbs have gone out. No warranty fixes. Nothing. I've never had anything else like it. I do keep up the maintenance.
All 4runners were made in Japan, as of last gen anyway. Those seem to be a different breed too.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 1:48 pm
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:53 pm to Grievous Angel
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I lucked out. My Mazda was made in Japan. Not all of them are. Didn't go seeking that, but it makes a difference. working on 200k. Absolutely nothing has broken. No bulbs have gone out. No warranty fixes. Nothing. I've never had anything else like it. I do keep up the maintenance.
Yes, it does make a difference. My Q50 Red Sport is made in Japan. I don't think the other trims are, I may be wrong. But I've had nothing wrong with mine at 100,000 miles. And I never hear about any other RS folks having issues. If I do, it is always some young Fast n Furious wannabe that buys one that is 6-7 years old, puts all kinds of crap on it trying to tune it up and then blows up the motor or turbos and gets online and talks about how crappy those cars are.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:56 pm to mtntiger
Imagine believing anything a stealership tells you
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:58 pm to Slippy
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When you’re the only game in town, and when you make it so hard for people to get your shite serviced elsewhere, you can charge whatever you want.
I always sell them before the oil needs changing, gotta have the best.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:02 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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If you can’t change your own oil after watching a YouTube video, you’re a moron. And you either had a loser father that didn’t know or he was absent, else you would already know how.
While I don't disagree in principle, I have seen a couple of major issues with many oil change videos on YT.
1. many I have seen don't address the importance of pre-filling the oil filter. The amount of bearing damage this creates over the life of a car is pretty significant. Anyone with a horizontally mounted or cartridge filter should know their car's clear flood mode procedure for filling the oil filter prior to starting. Some people look at me like I have 3 eyes when I mention it.
2. as I mentioned before many cars especially German ones the oil/filter change is just one part of the service. Doing all the steps helps ensure small problems don't become big problems (aka expensive problems) and it helps identify issues that might be covered under warranty. There are videos out there that go through the Merc A/B services and the equivalent BMW service (they are no longer A/B anymore) with all the scheduled parts.
IMO doing your own oil changes are not just about the money saved but the ability to keep a close eye on high value assets but you need to train the eye and hands to get the full value of you time spent in and around the vehicle. A 15 min oil change is likely not going to do that.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:11 pm to Slippy
Castrol Edge Euro MB 229.5 spec is about $9 a quart, you should need about 7. Mann oil filter is about $12.
If you want to pump the oil out like they do at the dealer, you can find an oil extraction pump on Amazon for $62.
You can just do it yourself for well under $100. Should take about 15 minutes total with the extraction pump. Most auto parts stores will take the used oil free of charge.
If you want to pump the oil out like they do at the dealer, you can find an oil extraction pump on Amazon for $62.
You can just do it yourself for well under $100. Should take about 15 minutes total with the extraction pump. Most auto parts stores will take the used oil free of charge.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:14 pm to N2cars
quote:Explain yourself.
Highly recommend dealer only on $100K+ cars.
Dealer owns the liability.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:17 pm to Obtuse1
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1. many I have seen don't address the importance of pre-filling the oil filter. The amount of bearing damage this creates over the life of a car is pretty significant.
Mercedes these days, pretty much all have a cartridge style oil filter on the top side of the engine which you can't pre-fill. BMW and VW mostly does this as well.
But you are correct, if you have a screw on type oil filter that's bottom mounted, you should pre-fill the filter.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:24 pm to Slippy
Poor people shouldn’t buy expensive shite.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:25 pm to Old Sarge
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Several of the luxury brands, tell you that they will void the warranty if the oil changes and service isn’t done at the dealership
Well, legally that is fully untrue and they are doing the typical thing that car dealerships do, lie. There are specific laws that dispute that very thing.
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal to void a warranty based on where you get routine maintenance or repairs, as long as the service follows the manufacturer's recommendations and you keep detailed records.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:25 pm to Obtuse1
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While I don't disagree in principle, I have seen a couple of major issues with many oil change videos on YT. 1. many I have seen don't address the importance of pre-filling the oil filter. The amount of bearing damage this creates over the life of a car is pretty significant. Anyone with a horizontally mounted or cartridge filter should know their car's clear flood mode procedure for filling the oil filter prior to starting. Some people look at me like I have 3 eyes when I mention it. 2. as I mentioned before many cars especially German ones the oil/filter change is just one part of the service. Doing all the steps helps ensure small problems don't become big problems (aka expensive problems) and it helps identify issues that might be covered under warranty. There are videos out there that go through the Merc A/B services and the equivalent BMW service (they are no longer A/B anymore) with all the scheduled parts. IMO doing your own oil changes are not just about the money saved but the ability to keep a close eye on high value assets but you need to train the eye and hands to get the full value of you time spent in and around the vehicle. A 15 min oil change is likely not going to do that.
Found the dealership lobbyist.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:32 pm to RolltidePA
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Mercedes these days, pretty much all have a cartridge style oil filter on the top side of the engine which you can't pre-fill. BMW and VW mostly does this as well.
But you are correct, if you have a screw on type oil filter that's bottom mounted, you should pre-fill the filter.
That is why people need to know how to use their car's clear flood mode to fill the cartridge and horizontal spin-ons before starting the car.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:43 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Found the dealership lobbyist.
Not at all, and my previous posts in this thread alone prove that.
I am pointing out just changing the oil is not properly doing the service on many cars. I find a lot of people that don't even know the importance of pre-filling the oil filter and have no idea how to do it if they have a cartridge or horizontal spin-on. Videos have been better about teaching that over the last couple of years but many legacy videos and even new ones leave it out. It is possible for the average DIY guy to do a full service A/B on a Mercedes but it ain't just an oil change. Learn the job and do the job or risk high dollar repairs in the future.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:44 pm to Slippy
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An oil change at the Mercedes dealership nowadays will basically cost you five hundy.
About what the AC guy quoted me to change 2 capacitors.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:49 pm to Obtuse1
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1. many I have seen don't address the importance of pre-filling the oil filter.
Totally agree. There is a vid on youtube where the guy was explaining the importance of prefilling your filter with oil before spinning it on. You would not believe the blow back he got from the "experts" chastising him for pouring "unfiltered oil" straight out of the plastic container. Good Grief Charlie Brown.
As prompted by the thread, I decided to do my end of the fall season service early this morning. Oil & filter, fuel and air filters replaced. Steering & chassis joints greased. Fluids topped off as needed, drive belts and hoses inspected. Tire pressures checked. Visual inspection on everything underneath. If your shop is doing this in 15 minutes, they are not looking at anything very closely, if at all.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Who drives a Mercedes these days?
People who want a better BMW or Audi?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:00 pm to lockthevaught
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You frickers that fork out that kind of money for routine maintenance are dim-witted pussies and could never survive on your own.
Or it literally isn’t worth my time to do it.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:00 pm to Slippy
Saban is part owner of the one in BR
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:16 pm to Obtuse1
There is no benefit from pre-filling oil filter. Google it. No benefit. Unless your car manual specifically says to do it. One would think one would read up on his model first before doing maintenance on it. It’s so simple nowadays to find info.
Never done it ever. No issues ever. Multiple cars over 100K and some 200K. Never ever. No issues ever. Owning and working on cars 40 years. I do almost anything except transmission work and boring out engine blocks.
Never done it ever. No issues ever. Multiple cars over 100K and some 200K. Never ever. No issues ever. Owning and working on cars 40 years. I do almost anything except transmission work and boring out engine blocks.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:17 pm to Obtuse1
Things have really changed. My 1969 Chrysler 300's service manual tells you how to rebuild alternators, starters and a number of other components. For the most part, old cars are straightforward when you work on them.
Seems like the newer the car, the more difficult it is to work on them yourself.
I hate cars that make you remove a lot of stuff to change a damn headlight.
Seems like the newer the car, the more difficult it is to work on them yourself.
I hate cars that make you remove a lot of stuff to change a damn headlight.
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