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re: An interesting case of self-defense is going to get heated in Lake Charles
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:47 pm to Caraway Rye
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:47 pm to Caraway Rye
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would say this dude should not have said or should say absolutely nothing about a "warning shot"
Thats exactly what it takes for a shitbag DA to go up to the podium and tell the jury you did not fear for your life when you pulled the trigger
Apparently there is video showing the perp advancing at the homeowner after the warning shot. No jury in the world would see that and conclude that the homeowner wasn’t reasonable threatened.
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:19 pm to lsupride87
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Well ok While you are patiently looking at bad guy 1 from inside your house, bad guy 2 is breaking into your young child’s bedroom
We’re now up to you outgunning a squad of guys in your front yard being the smart play? Because think of the children?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:20 pm to CharleyLake
It begs this question about the homeowner-Did the homeowner know that the kid was unarmed thus firing a warning shot prior to the fatal shots?
The dude was in a bathing suit. I guess he might’ve had questions but…
The dude was in a bathing suit. I guess he might’ve had questions but…
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:25 pm to Dixie Normus
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Regardless of the issues, I’d hope everyone in here understands that the attorney has a client to represent and doesn’t make personal judgments of the guy because of the positions he takes for his client. He’s a solid dude and a good attorney.
Attorney Todd Clemons just doxxed himself
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:and our dogs would hear and I would be there and the intruder would be dead before they(being PC ) gained entry.
While you are patiently looking at bad guy 1 from inside your house, bad guy 2 is breaking into your young child’s bedroom
way more things can go wrong going out to confront them than sitting back waiting. IF you had any close quarters training you would know that.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:32 pm to NoSaint
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The dude was in a bathing suit. I guess he might’ve had questions but…
I dont get the significance of a bathing suit. In the dark someone could still have a weapon and you not know. If you show up on my property uninvited do I have an obligation to frisk you before defending my family? Just because your attire seems odd doesn't give you rights to freely rome around someone else's place. Its an unfortunate situation but ultimately its the young mans fault. Handle your liquor or don't drink. Being drunk and barely dressed doesn't excuse your actions.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:34 pm to Crawdaddy
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If one is drunk and rapes a woman, he pays the price.
If one is drunk, drives home, wrecks killing a family of 4, He pays the price.
Same applies here
i agree.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:41 pm to Chad504boy
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i've always read warning shots are not recommended. Not sure how it applies in this case.
There's a saying..."think of every bullet as having an attorney attached to it." Not a problem unless it is a problem.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:41 pm to jennBN
quote:a poor poor reach for sympathy
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The dude was in a bathing suit. I guess he might’ve had questions but…
I dont get the significance of a bathing suit. In the dark someone could still have a weapon and you not know. If you show up on my property uninvited do I have an obligation to frisk you before defending my family? Just because your attire seems odd doesn't give you rights to freely rome around someone else's place. Its an unfortunate situation but ultimately its the young mans fault. Handle your liquor or don't drink. Being drunk and barely dressed doesn't excuse your actions.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:46 pm to Antonio Moss
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Didn't something like this happen in Baton Rouge several years ago? Maybe in Southdowns?
Many many years ago in BR, I remember a foreign exchange student, Yoshihiro Hattori getting shot for knocking on the wrong door looking for a Halloween party. He didn't speak much English and did not understand the command "FREEZE" from the homeowner. Very unfortunate.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:54 pm to jennBN
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dont get the significance of a bathing suit. In the dark someone could still have a weapon and you not know. If you show up on my property uninvited do I have an obligation to frisk you before defending my family? Just because your attire seems odd doesn't give you rights to freely rome around someone else's place. Its an unfortunate situation but ultimately its the young mans fault. Handle your liquor or don't drink. Being drunk and barely dressed doesn't excuse your actions.
I don’t know if you are familiar with bathing suits, but most don’t have a lot of hiding places.
The dude messed up. No doubt.
The homeowner may well be within his rights.
There are a lot of reasons to think it could end better and I hope folks here think twice about running out of their homes if they find themselves in a similarly uncomfortable position.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:58 pm to NoSaint
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I don’t know if you are familiar with bathing suits, but most don’t have a lot of hiding places.
Because no one has ever beaten someone to death with their bare hands.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:02 pm to NoSaint
I agree that the bathing suit has little significance. So same question-Given the circumstances that the homeowner left his house and if the homeowner knew the intruder was armed why waste a warning shot since he was no doubt threatened? Conversely if the homeowner reasonably believed the intruder not to be armed, why shoot him?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:07 pm to ghost2most
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I wish there was a better resolution. Would I have shot him? No. I would never go outside to confront a potential burglar with my family inside. I'd call the police and wait inside ready to blast if he came in. But I can't blame the homeowner. Not guilty. But tragic.
I honestly tend to land here without knowing the fine points of this interaction- I haven’t seen the video.
That said, you can be not guilty and have made choices that are riskier for you, your family, and the community. Tactically you are better not going outside. Your liability is a whole lot lower inside too. And now the dude is dealing with a whole lot of fallout while having done little to nothing to actually protect his family.
I’m very ok with gun ownership. I just think a lot of people mix up creating safe and stable situations for their loved ones with their own desire to be a hero and bad outcomes for all parties is the result when that happens.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:11 pm to CharleyLake
quote:You can not know if the guy is armed and still fire a warning shot
So same question-Given the circumstances that the homeowner left his house and if the homeowner knew the intruder was armed why waste a warning shot since he was no doubt threatened? Conversely if the homeowner reasonably believed the intruder not to be armed, why shoot him?
You can clearly see there is no gun in hand so you fire a warning shot. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have one in his pants.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:11 pm to NoSaint
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I just think a lot of people mix up creating safe and stable situations for their loved ones with their own desire to be a hero
Hell of an assumption there.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:12 pm to CharleyLake
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I agree that the bathing suit has little significance. So same question-Given the circumstances that the homeowner left his house and if the homeowner knew the intruder was armed why waste a warning shot since he was no doubt threatened? Conversely if the homeowner reasonably believed the intruder not to be armed, why shoot him?
Guys not reaching in a jacket or pulling a gun out of a waistband under a shirt. There is significance to attire. He’s not concealing himself. He’s not equipped for some ambush or planned assault.
That said, I agree that the homeowner likely did not think he was armed. But a young man attacking you could be fear for life still.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:12 pm to stout
If he kept advancing after a warning shot.....then it's unfortunate but justified, IMO (unless new info comes out).
Horrible situation though
Horrible situation though
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:13 pm to GRTiger
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Hell of an assumption there.
Are you under the impression that hero fantasy isn’t a thing?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:14 pm to lsupride87
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You can clearly see there is no gun in hand so you fire a warning shot. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have one in his pants.
Those mesh liners could catch darn near anything in them. I’ve found all kinds of stuff after trips to the beach
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