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re: Americans Taxed $400 Billion For Fiber Optic Internet That Doesn’t Exist
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:37 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:37 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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TL;DR: ISPs have stolen 400 billion from us
Wrong. GOVERNMENT did.
Also, instead of being pissed off at ISPs, go after the real monopoly makers in the ISP markets; Local governments.
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:49 pm to stuntman
Is this going to be a thread where we act like net neutrality will increase competition yet all major ISPs were for it?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:50 pm to stuntman
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Wrong. GOVERNMENT did.
So if a military contractor took government money for a specific purpose and then didn't fullfil that purpose, it wouldn't be the contractors' fault?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:50 pm to stuntman
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Also, instead of being pissed off at ISPs, go after the real monopoly makers in the ISP markets; Local governments.
Yea man, big gov forced them to take the billions of subsidies and forced them to up their prices across the country to "pay" for services and infrastructure that was never built. Poor ISPs. Feel bad for them really.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:52 pm to slackster
I have no idea what the future holds in ISP markets because of the repeal of NN, but I do know local governments are the main reason for their monopoly-like grip in nearly every town in the country.
I also know that taxes are imposed by government.
I also know that taxes are imposed by government.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:53 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:54 pm to stuntman
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but I do know local governments are the main reason for their monopoly-like grip in nearly every town in the country.
A truer statement has never been posted.
They preyed on the ignorance of local government
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:55 pm to LucasP
Of course they would be partly to blame, but you're starting the story in the middle. I'm saying there shouldn't have been taxes for this shite from the very start.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:59 pm to stuntman
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I have no idea what the future holds in ISP markets because of the repeal of NN, but I do know local governments are the main reason for their monopoly-like grip in nearly every town in the country.
I also know that taxes are imposed by government.
No one is saying the government is blameless.
It's just comical when we have threads about Musk and Tesla and half the thread is people bitch and moaning about the few billion of LOANS that Tesla/Musk's companies have gotten (ie not including the tax breaks that go direct into people's pockets after purchasing the car/installing solar/etc).
So people on this board are all up in arms over government money being used to actually produce shite. Apparently, that is unacceptable to many on this board. But hundreds of billions of tax money that was just given to ISPs who failed to deliver the upgrades promised, and it's solely the government's fault and ISPs (who voluntarily took our money) are completely blameless. It's pathetic.
Also, we HAD to do away with NN, because the ISPs said they didn't make enough money.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:00 pm to Cosmo
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My hood has fiber
Mine too. Actually multiple fiber options in parts of Lafy. LUS still tops where available, I think.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
In fairness your article hints towards making the infrastructure governmentally controlled and totally misses the mark on why the US infrastructure is lagging behind.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:06 pm to stuntman
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local governments are the main reason for their monopoly-like grip in nearly every town in the country.
Most of your point is a crappy one, but this is fact.
About a year ago the "contract" for st Charles parish and Cox was up. All the residents wanted there to be no limiting contract and wanted other options. The parish said they felt it was "unfair" to Cox, since Cox did the groundwork. So Cox has a new long contract in St Charles as the only cable provider.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:08 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Not once have I said they (ISPs) are blameless.
My point is that people are only looking at the symptom, not the disease.
So long as government, whether it be local, state, or federal, is doling out these kinds of favors to massive companies, the problems that people are complaining about will NEVER be rectified.
My point is that people are only looking at the symptom, not the disease.
So long as government, whether it be local, state, or federal, is doling out these kinds of favors to massive companies, the problems that people are complaining about will NEVER be rectified.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:12 pm to stuntman
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I'm saying there shouldn't have been taxes for this shite from the very start.
That's how government works. You pay taxes, that money goes to dotd and they give it to someone to build roads. If they give that money to a contractor and they use it for cocaine instead of roads then it's their fault. Why would you take up for them here?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:15 pm to brass2mouth
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About a year ago the "contract" for st Charles parish and Cox was up. All the residents wanted there to be no limiting contract and wanted other options. The parish said they felt it was "unfair" to Cox, since Cox did the groundwork. So Cox has a new long contract in St Charles as the only cable provider.
This is bullshite.
What's also bullshite is the major ISPs suing your local governments when they want to let new players into the market, or want to build out their own fiber networks that the ISPs refuse to do. Which they have done in many states.
Comcast sued (and lost, shockingly) when Chattanooga TN began building out their fiber network. 7 years later Comcast finally offers fiber in Chattanooga.
No idea if that's the case in St. Charles Parish, but it wouldn't shock me in the least if the ISPs are threatening any locality trying to break away.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:16 pm to LucasP
You think cable companies actually need tax dollars to exist?
BTW, I know I came across as sticking up for them. I'm not. Just pointing out where the epicenter of this problem is.
I don't want government subsidizing them at all.
BTW, I know I came across as sticking up for them. I'm not. Just pointing out where the epicenter of this problem is.
I don't want government subsidizing them at all.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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So people on this board are all up in arms over government money being used to actually produce shite. Apparently, that is unacceptable to many on this board.
Picking winners and losers, you bet. It's the epitome of what's wrong with the country
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:40 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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TL;DR: ISPs have stolen 400 billion from us and the assfricking has just begun.
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assfricking
Wait. Trillhog is involved in this too?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:53 pm to jennyjones
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I get gigabit speeds up and down at home
So do I l, our government actually delivered and were the first ones to do it in America.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:56 pm to JohnnyKilroy
45 Mbps in 1992 is laughable.....no where in America was that speed possible in 1992 or the world for that matter.....perhaps in some MIT lab or some crazy college that helped develop the web.
I have xfinity comcast and barely gwt that now.
Not sure how much I believe the article.
I have xfinity comcast and barely gwt that now.
Not sure how much I believe the article.
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