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re: America has reached peak obesity, obesity rates fall for the first time.

Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:33 am to
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And magic pills have never worked, the weight usually returns in a year or two.

We arent really making progress if no one is changing habits, just taking a magic pill.


Baby steps. It takes time to change culture and may even take a generation. If two obese parents can get on ozempic and completely change their eating habits, even if they have to stay on the drug for life, that could change the eating habits of their children and maybe they never get obese.

I can't figure out why people are so negative about these drugs. They appear to be life-changing miracle drugs that they are still discovering benefits for.

Will there likely be side affects? Yes. Virtually all drugs have them. But so far the side affects are minimal, especially when compared to obesity, heart disease, etc.

Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
1073 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:44 am to
Louisiana is doing its part to keep it from falling faster.


LA FAT

FAT AND DUMB

WHEN BEING FAT IS RACIST
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4053 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:47 am to
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If there is fat being excreted in higher than acceptable amounts it puts excess stress on the gall bladder.


I don't think Ozempic does that. From what I've read it slows down the digestive process, (sometimes causing constipation), and that slower process makes people feel full longer so they don't eat as much.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295152 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:12 am to
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I can't figure out why people are so negative about these drugs.


Because they replace the mechanism necessary to keep weight loss permanent.

Its a recipe for failure. Bad habits will continue.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:13 am to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:16 am to
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Its a recipe for failure. Bad habits will continue.



Almost as if they planned for it to fail so that they can sell the next "wonderdrug." I just want Ephedra to be legal again.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19202 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:23 am to
Ozyempic is to fat people what "gear" is to bodybuilders.

"You natty, bro? Nah I'm hitting the zympic, baw."
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20170 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:24 am to
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From what I've read it slows down the digestive process, (sometimes causing constipation), and that slower process makes people feel full longer so they don't eat as much.

If your body is rapidly decreasing its fat storage the fat isn't just disappearing and without exercise or dietary changes it certainly isn't even being processed via a natural pathway.

Whether due to a direct or indirect response, the gall bladder and pancreas are both being shown to be negatively impacted by Ozempic use, there are plenty of articles outlining some of the side effects.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295152 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:25 am to
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Almost as if they planned for it to fail so that they can sell the next "wonderdrug."


A sucker is born every minute, its said.

Youre not free if youre using a drug to control your fat.

They banned all stimulants that people used to take to curb appetite and approved something possibly more dangerous.

This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:29 am to
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I just want Ephedra to be legal again.


Make MiniThins great again!
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12551 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:32 am to
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Oh, Oh, Oh Ozempic!


You all know someone on it

This will be a 1 TRILLION dollar industry(just ozempic and other meds like it) most of their profits are in the US. Europe doesn't allow it to be used like we do.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
11677 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:34 am to
The behemoths get ozempic, the thick gals shooting up are the ones taking very real risks to avoid living the right way.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33891 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:23 am to
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Because they replace the mechanism necessary to keep weight loss permanent.

Its a recipe for failure. Bad habits will continue.


Someone that is morbidly obese is already lost. Virtually none of them ever get to a healthy weight.

Being morbidly obese has 100 more side effects and potential health issues than any of the current weight loss drugs.

Why would you be against that?

There are lots of permanent drugs that people are on to maintain their health, from insulin to cholesterol drugs.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295152 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:25 am to
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Someone that is morbidly obese is already lost.


Pills give false hope.

That weight will return unless they actually change behaviors.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33891 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:25 am to
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there are plenty of articles outlining some of the side effects.


And is it better or worse than being morbidly obese?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33891 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:29 am to
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Pills give false hope.

That weight will return unless they actually change behaviors.



If a 400-pounder loses 200 pounds, that is not "false hope". That is real.

And if he has to take a maintenance dose of Ozempic forever, so what?

That could have positive repercussions on generations of people. Perhaps his children won't be obese. Perhaps he starts exercising once he is not obese. These are good things.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19078 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:35 am to
Most modern medicine professionals and drug companies treat the symptoms and ignore the root causes, it’s way more profitable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295152 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:35 am to
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Most modern medicine professionals and drug companies treat the symptoms and ignore the root causes, it’s way more profitable.


Facts.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33891 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:38 am to
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Most modern medicine professionals and drug companies treat the symptoms and ignore the root causes, it’s way more profitable.


Perhaps some drugs do.

But obesity is caused by overeating. This particular drug causes you to eat less, so it actually treats the root cause.

Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11054 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:43 am to
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Obesity is a horrible problem in the developed world.


No it isn’t this is strictly a USA problem.
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