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Amazon Web Services is down (economic question)

Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:17 pm
So, the company I work for is 100% reliant on AWS for any part of the business to work. It's been down for over an hour, and this affects us company wide. Absolutely no location is able to function right now.

What kind of loss of economic activity happens when such an integral part of the tech and web retail sector goes down? Millions a minute? Tens of millions?

I have nothing to do so speculation is my only task right now.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
5359 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:18 pm to
This is why you deploy your stuff in multiple regions.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41558 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:20 pm to
There’s insurance for this very situation. To answer your question, it’s impossible to know the amount of loss without knowing what kind of businesses are affected.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55442 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:21 pm to
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There’s insurance for this very situation.



We're on contract to provide a service for municipalities, so fortunately we aren't suffering potential sales losses - just a shutdown of our contracted service. Not entirely sure how that works.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53757 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

I have nothing to do so speculation is my only task right now.


Might I suggest TulaneLSU’s Sam’s vs. Walmart shopping guide? It will save you cents.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:21 pm to
You should probably be working on making the system more redundant. Just a single region is down. Why aren't your company's systems failsafed over to other regions?
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10317 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:21 pm to
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100% reliant on AWS 


Dumb move
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55442 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:22 pm to
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it’s impossible to know the amount of loss without knowing what kind of businesses are affected.


I'm pretty sure that AWS is the biggest system of its kind in the US. I'd love to see the info on how much of web traffic (and other functions) are reliant on one company.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55442 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Why aren't your company's systems failsafed over to other regions?


frick if I know. I don't work on the tech - just operations side.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25956 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:37 pm
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22071 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

You should probably be working on making the system more redundant. Just a single region is down. Why aren't your company's systems failsafed over to other regions?


I bet I can take a stab at that. The bean counters were willing to pay to move to the cloud because the salesmen told them how safe it was and how much money it would save. But regional redundancy was just a bit too expensive to swallow (and it's cloud so it never goes down).
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:29 pm to
been in a call for the past hour and a half on this, we are 100% on us-east for our north american sites. luckily we have some caches in place that are partially saving our arse right now.

ETA: looks like its back
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
2418 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:40 pm to
Lol I was watching AMD conference on AI at noon and AWS was on bragging about AMD servers and how much more ffecient they’ve made them
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2054 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:44 pm to
The fact that AWS is reportedly down for many thousands of its customers, yet Amazon.com is functioning normally right now, tells you all you need to know.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

So, the company I work for is 100% reliant on AWS
Oof
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2677 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:07 pm to
I really am enjoying an email-free afternoon, or my employees pestering me on Teams.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73678 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

100% reliant on AWS for any part of the business to work


Not sure even Amazon is that reliant on AWS
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2063 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:24 pm to
Public sector here.

Our civil staff uses pitney bowes for all their certified mail. Completely down due to aws.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6404 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:25 pm to
Not everyone can afford multiple MZRs or the latency involved.

I was waiting for haircut when a CTO called his ISP to complain about having to send 200+ employees that did national support for some outfit home because they didn't have connectivity the entire day.

The impact is probably in the tens of millions depending on the MZR for *each* cloud provider. On the other hand, the customer is usually going to fulfill the order/service after your site comes up anyway.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43499 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:28 pm to
people dont realize the amount of codependency involved in a cloud based architecture. outages are going to happen. It sucks but thats life.
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