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Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:48 pm to momentoftruth87
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Not worse, but something does have to provide energy to recharge.
Absolutely. However, only ~60% of US electrical production is via fossil fuels. Even it is were 100% FF it would still take less FFs burned to move a given ICE car 100 miles than the analog EV since the generation of electricity is a far more efficient method of producing energy than an ICE. Add to that the fact that EVs have regenerative braking and recoup power that normally becomes heat in an ICE. EVs are simply more efficient no matter what fuel source is used to drive the generators.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:51 pm to TejasHorn
He should invest in SpaceX. Get us to Mars and mine us some of that sweet turbinium.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:51 pm to TejasHorn
I got a question---are electric vehicles really better for the environment?
Aren't we using hydrocarbons to make the electricity? and don't we lose electricity as we transport it?
Aren't we using hydrocarbons to make the electricity? and don't we lose electricity as we transport it?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:52 pm to Martini
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I would fire every fricking one of these employees
Big words from a line cook.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:54 pm to crewdepoo
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So if the grid was run off of renewables electric cars would be more beneficial. But still, charging a battery off from energy from a natural gas plant is still better than your traditional car.
Also, centralizing the production will likely increase overall efficiency and could provide for better sequestration options. Not sure why this still gets people riled up. *buhmuhvroomvroom*
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:55 pm to Obtuse1
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EVs are simply more efficient no matter what fuel source is used to drive the generators.
And they're fricking torque-monsters.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:55 pm to TejasHorn
I don't understand why some people are so threatened by electric cars.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:56 pm to Obtuse1
How much electricity is lost in transmission??
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:56 pm to TejasHorn
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Bezos described the planet as the best in the solar system
meh, I'm more a Jupiter guy myself
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:56 pm to momentoftruth87
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Not worse, but something does have to provide energy to recharge.
Well, the logical and easily arrived at answer is that the rise in electric vehicle usage would also coincide with growth in clean or renewable energy.
Some of you are pretty funny. It's like you melt about anything that isn't bad for the environment. Very odd.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:57 pm to I B Freeman
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Aren't we using hydrocarbons to make the electricity? and don't we lose electricity as we transport it?
I addressed the first part a couple of posts up from yours.
The average loss of electricity in transmission from plant to consumer is roughly 10%. That obviously varies depending on how far you are from high voltage lines and mid voltage transformers. But the process of producing work via electric motors is still more efficient than ICEs which really aren't very efficient.
There are a lot of other small variable energy losses from the power plant making the wheels turn on an EV. Most of them are rounding error level.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:57 pm to crewdepoo
Of course they are worse
Where does the electricity come from?
Feel good bullshite is all this is
Where does the electricity come from?
Feel good bullshite is all this is
Posted on 9/19/19 at 3:57 pm to HempHead
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As well as the energy involved in mining the lithium, constructing the battery, and shipping it to a manufacturing plant.
So a traditional car doesn't require any manufacturing? And the thousands of gallons of gas that will burn through them doesn't require any manufacturing? You're building a very poorly constructed strawman.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:00 pm to I B Freeman
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How much electricity is lost in transmission??
Latest EIA estimates put the number around 5-6 percent for transmission and distribution.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:03 pm to gthog61
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Of course they are worse
You say this based off of what knowledge? Do tell.
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Where does the electricity come from?
Power plants, solar panels, concentrating solar, wind farms, etc all providing more kWh per Btu than internal combustion engines.
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Feel good bullshite is all this is
Spoken like a true expert.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:04 pm to TejasHorn
Gonna charge those electric vans with unicorn farts?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:04 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So a traditional car doesn't require any manufacturing? And the thousands of gallons of gas that will burn through them doesn't require any manufacturing? You're building a very poorly constructed strawman.
I haven't suggested that traditional vehicles emit less than electric vehicles, I'm just saying that the manufacturing elements, particularly of lithium, are more intensive than a regular combustion engine. I don't know the total numbers for a lifetime for either one.
I'm good, though. I use biodiesel on my 300D
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:06 pm to crewdepoo
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So now electric cars are worse for the environment. Makes sense
They are 100% worse.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:07 pm to Jester
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Big words from a line cook.
I don’t even know what this means.
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