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re: Allison Rice murder investigation

Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:07 pm to
You think cops only work on the west side of those tracks? I think that’s a bit of a stretch.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Something I think is not adding up is they are saying he shot her through the windshield. Take a look at the pics of her suv… it’s night so of course it’s difficult to tell with certainty but I don’t see any damage to the windshield. Windshields don’t shatter like a side glass would, bullets would make holes and shatter the windshield but the plastic film inside it would keep it in tact with a spiderweb-like crack structure. I don’t see that in the pics. I do see what appears to be a large hole in the drivers side window near where the head or neck of a small woman would be. If she was shot in the chest and arms, this guy was right up on her and was aiming downward towards that area of her body. Further away and she would’ve been hit in the head.
yeah, I was wondering the same.

To counter my own thoughts one has to consider a couple things...

- at close range, extreme close range, and small enough caliber you won't get the spidering. Just a hole.

- there is no spidering (unless they removed the windshield- which would be insane from an evidence POV). It is backlit by cherries and berries and it would be visible.

- IF just a small hole from close range and smaller caliber in the front windshield it COULD be a quirk of the picture angle where the headrest or something is obscuring it due to the backlighting.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Something I think is not adding up is they are saying he shot her through the windshield.


It’s probably something lost in translation. Someone probably said “he shot from infront of the car”. Since he came from by the train he would have been front and left of her. The shots probably entered through the side window but from the front left.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:09 pm to
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I’ve been saying, knock on every door in a 3-5 mile radius. Someone knows something.


This is not breaking nuts my sweet summer child.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

You think cops only work on the west side of those tracks? I think that’s a bit of a stretch.


No but I think if you only have one other shithead with you and they are a spotter you need to eliminate half the possibilities
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:09 pm to
The holes (at least 3 of them) are on her driver's side window. You can see them in another pic.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:10 pm to
He probably did not start firing until he realized she threw it in reverse and stabbed the gas.

It’s likely it was in reverse and she was flooring which caused the shooting to start and then he continued firing and followed the car to the end of the median and it looped around into the opposite lane and onto the curb.

At that point he realized he better get out of there due to noise. Any criminal with sense would not rummage through the car because of fingerprints, dna and feat of someone driving up or seeing them after all that commotion.

Best bet is dna or prints off the shell casings.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:13 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50572 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

He probably did not start firing until he realized she threw it in reverse and stabbed the gas.

quote:

It’s likely it was in reverse and she was flooring which caused the shooting to start and then he continued firing and followed the car to the end of the median and it looped around into the opposite lane and onto the curb.

The audio clearly indicates the squealing of the tires happened last. The shooting occurred and the squeaking happened a second or two afterwards.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:16 pm to
The fact the squeezing of the tires happened last was probably as the car looped around and was turning. She was probably already hit at that point. It does not mean it was not thrown in reverse and accelerated straight backward without squeeling tires.

Go try it in an empty parking lot. Stab the gas and cut the wheel hard and tires wheel squeal.

Just speculation.

Cops should know if car was in reverse or not when they found it unless there was sloppy police work.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50572 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:17 pm to
That’s a good point.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42034 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

The holes (at least 3 of them) are on her driver's side window. You can see them in another pic.


They must have shot...explains the shots 13 seconds into the audio, missed or wounded her, then she u-turned as they were shooting and finished her off. Sick.

None of it makes sense shooting her.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:23 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44684 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:19 pm to
Was it 2 volleys of shots in the audio? I thought that at first but wasn’t sure. The second set sounded a lot louder.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50572 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:19 pm to
Someone pointed out that the “shots” at 12/13 seconds May we’ll have actually been the train. There is a clear difference in the sound of that and then the shots later at 34 seconds so I believe the 12/13 second sounds were in fact the train.

Unless there were two shooters using different types of guns.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22316 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:19 pm to
The BRPD special response unit patrols all those shitty neighborhoods in and around Red Stick Social. Especially the Convention St area, which is a hotbed for crime.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44684 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:21 pm to
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The BRPD special response unit patrols all those shitty neighborhoods


I bet those baws have some stories. I know the chief sucks but there are still some good people working some messed up streets around here.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150177 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:23 pm to
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The media said she was shot in the chest and arms. If the first shot was the kill shot, it had to be in her heart, I’m assuming.



Even if the first shot was the fatal shot and directly to her heart, she would have had a few seconds of life in her to put it in reverse and slam on the gas. That's not going to immediately stop all function, like a bullet to the brain.
good god people
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

The fact the squeezing of the tires happened last was probably as the car looped around and was turning. She was probably already hit at that point. It does not mean it was not thrown in reverse and accelerated straight backward without squeeling tires. Go try it in an empty parking lot. Stab the gas and cut the wheel hard and tires wheel squeal. Just speculation.


Yes but she was probably alive for longer than you think.

Look at the orientation of the tires. If she reversed into a uturn she then would have had to turn the wheel all the way back to the right to explain how the tires were facing.

I think we are getting caught up in this whole “the first shot killed her”. Maybe the cops just said something like that to the family to make them feel like she didn’t suffer.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:24 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:25 pm to
Who knows. Some of those hood rats stealing cars and burglarizing cars in New Orleans work in two men teams.

One approaches the victim and the other covers from behind or in front. So who knows.

Cops will know based on shell casings though if more than one weapon was fired.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:28 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42034 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Was it 2 volleys of shots in the audio?


I don't know, hard to tell.

To gumbo...it probably was the train.

It makes sense they shot her as she u-turned. Would explain the tires squealing and the way the suv ended up.

I just want to know why they shot her.

If it was a thrill kill, we have serious sick shite to deal with, and it's way more dangerous than normal hood rat crime.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15471 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:31 pm to
I've seen videos of two thugs in a vehicle carjacking someone.

Two thugs stop their car, armed passenger gets out and steals the victim's car. Both thugs drive off separately.

Is it possible the tires squealing was the get away vehicle? (Shooter just gets back in the passenger seat and they floor it.)
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:32 pm
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