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re: Allison Rice murder investigation
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:36 pm to ItTakesAThief
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:36 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Yeah looks like she put it in reverse to get away. She was shot point blank through windshield. Car turned on it’s on after she was shot crossed opposit lane and ended up facing opposite direction.
That’s the theory I’m going with too based on the photos. She probably started to put it in reverse when she felt threatened and once her shot her the car moved on its own to the location they found it
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:36 pm to TDsngumbo
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Yea, this guy was on foot, no doubt.
And if there is no surveillance footage it means he probably didn’t come down government street which leaves that Wisteria lane entrance/exit as the only option. And there are no cameras around there.
Hopefully the cops are up in there looking for some ring doorbells.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:37 pm to OysterPoBoy
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press condom
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:38 pm to fallguy_1978
I am sure she was in the process of slamming the accelerator to the floor when she realized her situation. Thus the squeezing tires. Especially if the accelerator was floored in reverse and the wheel then turned hard to the left
People usually don’t die or lose consciousness instantly. She had a few seconds of trying like hell to drive away, probably in reverse and the perp followed and continued to shoot.
People usually don’t die or lose consciousness instantly. She had a few seconds of trying like hell to drive away, probably in reverse and the perp followed and continued to shoot.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:39 pm to Tomatocantender
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I'm going to say this one last time so you don't spazz out on me again. Listen up. The scenario is that the very 1st bullet was the kill shot. That doesn't mean the arm. That means chest/heart. That also means close range and straight, point blank shot. This is STILL ALLEGEDLY at this point. Do you understand?
I’m not spazzing out on you. I understand the words you’re saying in this post but I also understand in your other post that you said that’s what you’ve heard and can’t mention any names. It’s not a big deal but still, if what you heard is true, then I’m sure the police aren’t releasing it for a reason.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:43 pm to TDsngumbo
Cops better be knocking on every door down wisteria lane and find out who likes to hang out by those tracks.
Whoever did it knew the area and that back way down the tracks to government. It’s the perfect in and out escape from the scene.
Plan: hang out behind that abandoned building by the school bus until the train comes. Then walk down and see if a solo car stops. He probably knew where every security camera was on all those buildings and half the cameras were blocked by the train.
Do cops think like this?
Whoever did it knew the area and that back way down the tracks to government. It’s the perfect in and out escape from the scene.
Plan: hang out behind that abandoned building by the school bus until the train comes. Then walk down and see if a solo car stops. He probably knew where every security camera was on all those buildings and half the cameras were blocked by the train.
Do cops think like this?
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:48 pm to TDsngumbo
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The media said she was shot in the chest and arms. If the first shot was the kill shot, it had to be in her heart, I’m assuming.
Even if the first shot was the fatal shot and directly to her heart, she would have had a few seconds of life in her to put it in reverse and slam on the gas. That's not going to immediately stop all function, like a bullet to the brain.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:51 pm to Smeg
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That's not going to immediately stop all function, like a bullet to the brain.
It wouldn’t stop all function immediately like a bullet to the brain BUT I bet you are so disoriented by the sudden cessation of blood to the brain that you are essentially incapacitated until you die, two or three seconds later. I’m not convinced a person would have the ability to still think in those seconds. I’d imagine it’s a massive fog of confusion and blacking out. Y’all remember that video posted here a month or so ago of the guy who got stabbed in his jugular? He died within five seconds and he still had blood pumping through other arteries. I’d imagine a bullet to the heart is enough to kill a person within two or three seconds since it completely stops all blood flow immediately.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:53 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:the thing that makes no sense to me, noting most criminals aren't smart, but if he scoped the area out or it was a regular ambush spot then he has no cover from either side quite a way and he walked to the middle of the road before firing.
Whoever did it knew the area and that back way down the tracks to government. It’s the perfect in and out escape from the scene.
Plan: hang out behind that abandoned building by the school bus until the train comes. Then walk down and see if a solo car stops. He probably knew where every security camera was on all those buildings and half the cameras were blocked by the train.
Now she was likely eating and not paying attention to her flanks. But still, it's not like he jumped out of the bushes and was right on her.
I can only assume he took a path, rate, and body language to imply that he was just crossing the road before heading towards her driver side window.
Wonder if he thought the train would mask the shots to ShotSpotter (and witnesses).
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:56 pm to TDsngumbo
I would bet someone has at least 10 seconds of consciousness when shot in the heart. Also, adrenaline kicks in. She could have performed a quick simple task like shifting and stepping on the pedal.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:56 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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They would have already found the few cars in the area on security cams and have leads.
Well, why might they not have a lead?
Furthermore there’s a real bad area immediately north of the Electtic Depit. An area as bad as it gets. Perp could have come from that direction too. Walking, biking, or driving.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:56 pm to I20goon
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It makes me think they are definitely trying to hide what they know because it is something other than hoodrat.
I could be wrong but I’m not buying this scenario for one reason. I can’t imagine anyone having the balls to sneak around in the shadows of that area at 2am without being very familiar with the neighborhood and more importantly the people of the neighborhood.
Armed or not, I do not see an outsider being stupid enough to wander around that area alone at any time of day. They’d stick out like a sore thumb.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:57 pm to member12
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But why not take the car or whatever they were trying to steal?
Because it was covered in bullet holes and blood with a dead body in the front seat?
Attempted car jacking, victim refused, they killed her and ran.
I would be shocked if this was not what happened.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:57 pm to I20goon
Something I think is not adding up is they are saying he shot her through the windshield. Take a look at the pics of her suv… it’s night so of course it’s difficult to tell with certainty but I don’t see any damage to the windshield. Windshields don’t shatter like a side glass would, bullets would make holes and shatter the windshield but the plastic film inside it would keep it in tact with a spiderweb-like crack structure. I don’t see that in the pics. I do see what appears to be a large hole in the drivers side window near where the head or neck of a small woman would be. If she was shot in the chest and arms, this guy was right up on her and was aiming downward towards that area of her body. Further away and she would’ve been hit in the head.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:58 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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And if there is no surveillance footage it means he probably didn’t come down government street which leaves that Wisteria lane entrance/exit as the only option. And there are no cameras around there.
There’s a street along Ekectric Depot that runs north.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:01 pm to Rekrul
quote:I was speaking more in terms of law enforcement playing real close to the vest with details because of trying to protect the investigation.
I could be wrong but I’m not buying this scenario for one reason. I can’t imagine anyone having the balls to sneak around in the shadows of that area at 2am without being very familiar with the neighborhood and more importantly the people of the neighborhood.
Armed or not, I do not see an outsider being stupid enough to wander around that area alone at any time of day. They’d stick out like a sore thumb.
For example, example only, if they suspect this wasn't any form of robbery/jacking and that the killer ambushed her simply to kill they potentially have a Memphis style spree killer in the making, or even run-of-mill spree killer getting his feet wet. In that case the investigation is wildly different than a "robbery gone wrong".
I'm not proposing theories- I'm simply stating that if this was "robbery gone wrong" I'd expect more talk coming from the podium.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:04 pm to TDsngumbo
There are no bullet holes in that windshield.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:05 pm to TDsngumbo
I’ve been pissed off all weekend because of this horrible killing.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:05 pm to I20goon
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Wonder if he thought the train would mask the shots to ShotSpotter (and witnesses).
I think the train blocks an entire side of town that cops could be coming from. I bet he had a spotter down government looking for cops at the previous intersection.
I’m hoping that spotter, if he exists, is the one that talks.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:06 pm to loogaroo
Exactly the way I see it. No damage to that windshield.
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