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re: Allegedly, Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries

Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:15 pm to
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You said George Floyd deserved his death directly after comparing the two. It's not a lazy response but rather drawing what appeared to be an apt comparison by you.



The comparison I made was that they both made terrible decisions that lead directly to their deaths.

quote:


I agree with your other responses. I understand your's and others who litter these threads opinions. I guess I just don't understand the need to continually push the narrative when it's understood unless you have an axe to grind or think she deserved it like George Floyd and others


I have no axe to grind. I don't know anyone involved in the case and frankly don't care how it turns out other than I hope the truth is found and the correct verdict is reached.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:22 pm to
That’s right - lsu Angel or something.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:22 pm to
The ol paint the victim as a slut defense
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6446 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

SlowFlowPro


If there is evidence that the injuries referenced in the arrest warrant did in fact happen the day before, and with the report that no DNA evidence was found, could a judge dismiss this entire thing? I'm not asking IF the judge will but could the judge? Based on the above evidence...
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150772 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:23 pm to
Man, as I've said before the absolute worst of this will be her parents having to sit through the trial and hearing all of this kind of stuff about their daughter.

I get why the defense is trying to do this. I get why people will be offended by it. I get why the prosecution will argue against it all. Etc. But man that's gotta be rough that every time something comes out about this case, it makes your already deceased daughter just look terrible. That has to be painful on a parent.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21527 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:23 pm to
Does this attorney have a wife and/or daughters?
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7581 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:24 pm to
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The comparison I made was that they both made terrible decisions that lead directly to their deaths.
I don't think anyone has argued that, or that she isn't culpable to some degree with the decisions she made that night. I also think the question I asked was fair when directly after comparing the two you declared he deserved it.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6446 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:24 pm to
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But man that's gotta be rough that every time something comes out about this case, it makes your already deceased daughter just look terrible. That has to be painful on a parent.


As a parent, that would be the absolute worst..
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12526 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Does this attorney have a wife and/or daughters?

Yes and they also have a duty to defend their clients.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166334 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:28 pm to
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There is video of her literally running to their car from the bar.



There's also evidence of her being run over by a car in the middle of a road in middle of night shortly after being dropped off out of the rapers' vehicle.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:30 pm to
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I also think the question I asked was fair when directly after comparing the two you declared he deserved it.


No I don't think she deserved to die. She wasn't doing anything to harm anyone but herself.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6446 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Carver's attorney filed a motion on Monday claiming that two new witnesses can testify to Brooks' injuries possibly being linked to a sexual encounter the day before her death.

According to the motion, an LSU student by the alias of "John Snow" claims he had consensual sex with Brooks in the early morning hours of Jan. 14.

A second witness, a friend of Brooks by the alias "Haley Cage," claims she picked up Brooks from Snow's apartment and heard details about the sexual encounter.


Apparently there's 2 witnesses..

LINK
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3960 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:33 pm to
Yeah this

I’ve seen the camera footage myself

The group of guys are like walking away from the bar across the parking lot and she like jogs after them

They didn’t like scoop an unconscious girl off the floor and drag her to their car
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:38 pm to
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As a parent, that would be the absolute worst


I think the lesson here for parents is to teach your daughters to respect themselves and not spread their legs for every guy that shows them a fleeting moment of attention.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:39 pm to
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How some attorneys sleep at night is beyond my comprehension
It's because 99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad name...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95516 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:47 pm to
If the vaginal/anal injuries that are claimed by the prosecution to be caused by the defendants potentially can be linked to a previous sexual encounter, you think a good ethical lawyer should not introduce that?

It would be unethical not to and a lawyer that doesn’t introduce that should lose sleep at night, not the other way around
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:48 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:49 pm to
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The motion, which was filed Monday by Casen Carver's lawyer, alleges that an unidentified LSU student — who is not named in the filing — had sex with Brooks the day before she died. The motion said that the unnamed student caused sexual injuries to Brooks


So she got raped before she got raped??

Got it
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28386 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:49 pm to
Out of curiosity, I read the motion . The motion is styled as a "Motion for Preliminary Examination".

The motion contends the defense has information that Brooks had consensual sex with an unidentified student on the morning of Jan. 14, 2023 (the day before Brooks was killed). The defense claims the probable cause warrant for this defendant's arrest was issued, in part, because of the autopsy report that stated abrasions and bruising were noted around Brooks' anus.

The defendant claims they have Brooks's phone records which indicate she had consensual sex with the unidentified student. The defense theory being that the injuries identified in the autopsy report were caused by the consensual sex the day before with the unidentified student, not the alleged rape by the defendant.

It goes on further to sate the defense attorney has attempted to contact the unidentified student and that he has refused to cooperate. Thus, the defendant is asking the court to essentially issue an order requiring the defense attorney the opportunity to question unidentified student, as well as another unidentified female student who Brooks purportedly texted to come pick her up from the male unidentified student's apartment on the morning of January 14th.

I don't have any inside information about this case whatsoever. Just stating what the motion says
Posted by SHPMustang
Houston
Member since Jan 2021
44 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:52 pm to
Unfortunately, the dad more or less had to sue the ride-share driver.

Posters that are members of the Louisiana Bar can better speak to the specifics of third-party practice in Louisiana, but the dad's attorney was just getting ahead of what the defense attorneys would do: claim that the ride-share driver caused/contributed to her death and should be assigned a portion of the liability at trial. This could potentially decrease any judgment obtained if the jury panel apportions a percentage of liability to the ride-share driver, or worst-case scenario, decides that its all the ride-share driver's fault.

By preempting the defense, dad's lawyer can attempt to settle with the ride share's defense counsel/commercial insurance carrier, who would be glad to get a potential catastrophic claim off the books. Upon settling, they can figure out how to dismiss the ride share driver/company in a way that is least beneficial to the other defendants.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166334 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:53 pm to
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Unfortunately, the dad more or less had to sue the ride-share driver.



why is it unfortunate?
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