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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:01 am to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:01 am to OysterPoBoy
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Like a rhino? I didn’t see his statement but did he say Arbery charged them while they were in the truck?
Here's a summary. He doesn't say Arbery charged the truck while moving, but that they stopped the truck and as son was getting out, Arbery charged.
Just read his description vs the video and you'll see how much BS there is.
"Gregory McMichael stated when they arrived at the intersection of Satilla Drive and Holmes Drive, they saw Arbery running down Burford Drive.
In the report, McMichael says they attempted to cut off Arbery, but he turned around and began running back in the other direction.
McMichael and his son continued to follow Arbery, they shouted “stop, stop, we want to talk to you.”
McMichael pulled up next to Arbery. Travis McMichael got out of the truck with the shotgun.
According to statements, that’s when McMichael says Arbery attacked his son and the two men started fighting over the gun at which point Travis McMichael fired a shot. A second later there was a second shot."
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:01 am to Antonio Moss
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I don't think you understand what a strawman argument is.
K. :thump: Doctored video.
Keep your eye on the ball, huh?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:02 am to BluegrassBelle
My question - are you implying the guy in the bed of the truck was the one who fired the shot(s)? Because the first shot (through the deceased’s hand) was from him trying to grab the gun.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:02 am to The Pirate King
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Their intention appeared to be to hold the guy and or question him and perform a citizens arrest. I’m sure they didn’t go into the situation wanting to kill the guy.
JFC
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:03 am to The Pirate King
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Their intention appeared to be to hold the guy and or question him and perform a citizens arrest. I’m sure they didn’t go into the situation wanting to kill the guy.
They didn't have immediate knowledge that he committed a felony (the standard in Georgia). They had only seen a video of him looking in the window of a construction site.
There shouldn't have been an attempt at a citizen's arrest to begin with. Sorry, baw.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:04 am to Mo Jeaux
I don't know what you are even arguing?
Pretty much everyone had already said whether he was just a jogger or he was actually walking around the construction site is absolutely irrelevant.
So your "sheeple believing the media" posts don't really make sense.
Pretty much everyone had already said whether he was just a jogger or he was actually walking around the construction site is absolutely irrelevant.
So your "sheeple believing the media" posts don't really make sense.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:04 am to The Pirate King
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Their intention appeared to be to hold the guy and or question him and perform a citizens arrest.
Which by their own admission would have been completely illegitimate and thus not a defense to their murdering of Arbery.
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I’m sure they didn’t go into the situation wanting to kill the guy.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:04 am to The Pirate King
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My question - are you implying the guy in the bed of the truck was the one who fired the shot(s)? Because the first shot (through the deceased’s hand) was from him trying to grab the gun.
I'm arguing that you can't argue self-defense when two armed men are laying in wait for a victim.
Are you implying that they hadn't stopped and waited for him to come in an attempt to ambush?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:04 am to Antonio Moss
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None of which is relevant.
Of course it's relevant. If you want to play prosecutor and defender, by all means do so. I'm not particularly interests in that.
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Even if I take the word of the rednecks and assume what they say is true, it's still fricking murder.
Maybe. Maybe not.
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Your point is absurdly stupid.
How is my point absurdly stupid? I don't think you understand what point I'm making. I mean you made some "absurdly stupid" allegation about me thinking the video was doctored.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:04 am to BluegrassBelle
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There shouldn't have been an attempt at a citizen's arrest to begin with. Sorry, baw.
I have never once said they were right in any way. In fact I made it painfully obvious that I believe the opposite.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:05 am to The Pirate King
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I have never once said they were right in any way. In fact I made it painfully obvious that I believe the opposite.
Then the rest of your "self-defense" argument is null and void. They were attempting an illegal citizen's arrest, armed. They pursued the man illegally. You can't claim self-defense at that point.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:06 am to JohnnyKilroy
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You seem to not understand what lynching means.
Yes I do, but you're completely free to believe this.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:06 am to Mo Jeaux
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Yes I do
Obviously not, but you're completely free to believe this.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:06 am to Mo Jeaux
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K. :thump: Doctored video. Keep your eye on the ball, huh?
Like I said, you don't know what a strawman argument is.
You alleged that people were believing what the media wants them which is a preposterous position because no one is really basing their opinion on anything other than the video.
So unless you are alleging that the video is inaccurate, then your initial point is absurd. It's the only reasonable conclusion.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:07 am to BluegrassBelle
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They pursued the man illegally. You can't claim self-defense at that point.
In the moments that led to the deceased being shot they can and they will.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:07 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Imagine if this was a good southern baw walking down the street while concealed carry. A couple of hoods roll up on him, block his path and then get out of their car guns drawn. Baw draws and a firefight ensues leaving the hoods dead.
Not one single person in this thread would argue that the baw made the aggressive move that lead to a fatal shooting. Not one
Now imagine that scenario but if that good ole wasn’t armed and was the one who got killed. Because that’s pretty much what happened to Arbery.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:08 am to Salmon
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Pretty much everyone had already said whether he was just a jogger or he was actually walking around the construction site is absolutely irrelevant.
I don't think it's absolutely irrelevant.
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So your "sheeple believing the media" posts don't really make sense.
Meh. That's fine. There are agendas whether you want to think so or not. Those agendas can affect not only what is reported, but how things are reported.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:08 am to The Pirate King
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In the moments that led to the deceased being shot they can and they will.
And will head to the gallows with a pretty shoddy defense.
The only reason they evaded charges to this point is the first two DAs had to recuse themselves due to connections to the case.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:08 am to AMS
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Now imagine that scenario but if that good ole wasn’t armed and was the one who got killed. Because that’s pretty much what happened to Arbery.
Exactly. My hypo is way less egregious than what actually occurred.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:09 am to BluegrassBelle
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And will head to the gallows with a pretty shoddy defense.
What other defense do they have that’s not shoddy?
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