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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:17 am to
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Where's the evidence that he stopped to steal copper wire? The video at the construction site didn't show that, no charges were filed regarding that.


That's what sort of blows me away about the first DA labeling Arbery a burglary suspect.

No 911 caller says he took something. The video from the construction site apparently doesn't show him taking anything. He's clearly not carrying anything in the video.

How is he a burglary suspect when there's literally no evidence he took anything?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19479 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:17 am to
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The guys lied about how many shots there were and omitted the shot that occurred at the front of the truck. The guys also lied about how they pursued him. They made it seem like they were "chasing" him after something they didn't see him do. They did not tell the police they were parked, armed, and waiting for him to run up on them.


They were probably coached on what to say in their police report
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:18 am to
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They were probably coached on what to say in their police report



I mean the Dad was former law enforcement. I have no doubt they purposefully lied to try to make their attack look more sympathetic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:18 am to
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So you’re one of those assuming they went in with the intention to murder this guy for stealing copper wire?

there was no reason for guns if they didn't anticipate the need to use violence
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299159 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

So you’re one of those assuming they went in with the intention to murder this guy for stealing copper wire?


From the video, it appears they certainly came prepared to kill the guy. I'm not certain of their intentions.

It wasn't any of their business what this guy was doing.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17574 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:19 am to
I dont know if any of this is new information. But this is an article I read, and it looks like the site is based out of the GA town where all this transpired, so maybe it is accurate? Idk. LINK

Some key things of note I took away.
quote:

Jones said county police gave her misinformation immediately following her son’s death. Jones said she was told Arbery was shot while struggling with a homeowner for a handgun during a burglary. She said she did not learn Arbery was shot after the two men pursued him in a pickup truck through the neighborhood until The News reported it on April 1.

I know mothers are usually not the best witnesses to tell the complete truth in these type of situations. But taking everything into account, the dad being a long-time former police officer/investigator in the county. No arrest being made even though this happened almost 3 months ago. If the cops really did tell the mother this. Then I smell a massive massive cover-up and that department needs to be heavily investigated.

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“They told me he was involved in a burglary,” Cooper said. “And during a confrontation — a tussle over a handgun — he was shot and killed. I didn’t question that at the time, because when authority comes and tells you something, you trust authority.”

Again the mother here, this part is so fricked up to read. She trusted the people paid to protect and serve. Yet they are covering up a good buddy of theirs. Nvm the fact he didnt tussle over a handgun, it was a fricking shotgun.

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A resident of Satilla Shores said Friday that she had seen Arbery jogging through the neighborhood off U.S. 17 several times.

If there are indeed witnesses unrelated to the family that can affirm that Ahmad is an avid runner in the area, these guys are definitely fried.

I havent seen it mentioned since then, but yesterday I posted another article from this same source that said there was no string of break-ins reported in that area with the department. Instead, the only report was for who someone broke into the son with the shotgun's car once and stole something in the beginning of January.

I'm trying to take all of this at face value. And I understand that just because a news article says it doesnt make it true. But I havent seen a single thing yet that goes in the 2 shooters' favor with this case. They are going down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:20 am to
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Jones said county police gave her misinformation immediately following her son’s death. Jones said she was told Arbery was shot while struggling with a homeowner for a handgun during a burglary. She said she did not learn Arbery was shot after the two men pursued him in a pickup truck through the neighborhood until The News reported it on April 1.


quote:

“They told me he was involved in a burglary,” Cooper said. “And during a confrontation — a tussle over a handgun — he was shot and killed. I didn’t question that at the time, because when authority comes and tells you something, you trust authority.”


uh, yeah time for the DOJ to step in to investigate
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43448 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:22 am to
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uh, yeah time for the DOJ to step in to investigate


Time to go from the bottom to the top in that department and charge every single one of them involved in the potential coverup.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41073 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:22 am to
And Pirate King thinks these guys will walk
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:23 am to
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Uh, if a stranger hopped out of the cab of a pickup and pointed a shotgun at me, I wouldn't think he wanted to have a chat.



If there was a truck chasing me down, a stranger with a gun in the truckbed with another jumping out shooting at me with a shotgun, I wouldn’t think they wanted to chat is more accurate.

It’s so much more egregious and aggressive than your scenario lmao. Defending it is trashy and low IQ. It wouldn’t even matter if he did just burglarize a place. The killers actions were waaaay disproportionate to the suspected crime.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:23 am to
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Time to go from the bottom to the top in that department and charge every single one of them involved in the potential coverup.

the sad part is these assholes may be so backwater that they don't use computers to communicate and may have left the smoking guns to oral communications
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68393 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:23 am to
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If the cops really did tell the mother this. Then I smell a massive massive cover-up and that department needs to be heavily investigated.


Considering the only evidence they had to go on was the story of the people doing the blocking/shooting, how can you blame the cops for not IMMEDIATELY having the exact story of what happened?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107981 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:24 am to
quote:

ones said county police gave her misinformation immediately following her son’s death. Jones said she was told Arbery was shot while struggling with a homeowner for a handgun during a burglary. She said she did not learn Arbery was shot after the two men pursued him in a pickup truck through the neighborhood until The News reported it on April 1.


Wow. I mean, wow.

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A resident of Satilla Shores said Friday that she had seen Arbery jogging through the neighborhood off U.S. 17 several times.


And there it is.

quote:

Powell has been on paid administrative leave since his arrest Feb. 27 on charges of perjury and violating his oath of office, stemming from a scandal last year that imploded the department’s narcotics enforcement squad. Echoing many other local leaders’ opinions, Perry said there should have been an immediate arrest by Glynn County police the day of the shooting. Short of that, the GBI should have been called in to take over the investigation.


So the police chief likely assisted with the previous DAs in trying to protect these murderous baws.

Hey, since he's clearly a POS does that mean we can hop in the truck with some shotguns and run him down too?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:24 am to
quote:

uh, yeah time for the DOJ to step in to investigate



Yeah. I'm not trusting these yokels to run an investigation. It's insane that nothing has happened.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:24 am to
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that's why they left the shotguns at home, right?

Those were their talkin' shotguns, great for breaking the ice.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41073 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:25 am to
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Considering the only evidence they had to go on was the story of the people doing the blocking/shooting


So now you're saying that the original story given to the cops was a complete fabrication?

I thought these guys were trying to make a citizens arrest?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:25 am to
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Yeah. I'm not trusting these yokels to run an investigation.

if their initial response to the mother of the deceased was to say he was shot during a burglary, then HOLY frick
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:25 am to
quote:

How is he a burglary suspect when there's literally no evidence he took anything?


I am not saying he was a suspect but the owner of the house said in an interview that he had $2500 worth if fishing equipment stolen from house.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68393 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:25 am to
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a stranger with a gun in the truckbed with another jumping out shooting at me with a shotgun, I wouldn’t think they wanted to chat is more accurate.


According to reports, the first shot was not fired before the deceased made the aggressive turn towards the shooter.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86176 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Considering the only evidence they had to go on was the story of the people doing the blocking/shooting, how can you blame the cops for not IMMEDIATELY having the exact story of what happened?



ummmm their story was that they chased him through the neighborhood
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