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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:22 am to
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:22 am to
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And how are they suppose to know simple trespassing isn't a felony?


Well one of them was a former law enforcement officer.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:22 am to
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It is relevant. If it can be proven that he was in the neighborhood to steal

Sounds like conjecture
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:24 am to
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Sounds like conjecture


Especially since the man is dead and really can't testify to his intent.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:24 am to
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I just want to know why there was a car filming the black guy running.


There was an article two days ago that said he was a neighbor of the killers and that they called him and told him they were chasing the victim and he joined in.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:24 am to
Did they ever say who was filming this? I assume another neighbor? If this was a set up to murder him couldn’t that guy be seen as an accomplice?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:24 am to
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Immediate knowledge might fit the definition. And how are they suppose to know simple trespassing isn't a felony?

That's a pretty vague law and a good lawyer will be able to use it to their advantage. Obviously I'm not justifying what they did.


The father was a former law enforcement office and detective for the local PD. A good lawyer will likely argue that he had a thorough knowledge of what is and isn't a felony.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:24 am to
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The guy killed was a POS. He was arrested for trying to bring a gun into a school gym and was also arrested for shoplifting. He has a history of being a POS, so he probably wasn't a jogger out for a nice run.


Shoplifting is a crime that probably would get you probation or community service at the worst.

The gun at a school sounds bad, but it lacks context.

Regardless, neither of those allow the three men to do what they did. Even if it did (it didn't), they were not aware of any of this info.

I dont know why people dont understand that you cant kill a man and then go digging through his life for justification.

Further more, it is possible for people to mature as they get older or after making a few mistakes. It blows my mind that you want to walk down charges for things he had previously done that they weren't even aware of. Please walk me through that logic and do you think it should be applied to all future cases?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:25 am to
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If it can be proven that he was in the neighborhood to steal.



Which would probably be irrelevant given what transpired
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:26 am to
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I dont know why people dont understand that you cant kill a man and then go digging through his life for justification.



Well, it goes to his character.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:27 am to
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It is relevant. If it can be proven that he was in the neighborhood to steal.


If I recall, there was no damaged reported at the construction site he was "seen" walking away from and he was cleared of any wrong doing even by the lower DAs who have since been recused.

The men themselves even admitted in their police interview that the worst the victim was accused of was looking in the window of a construction site.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:28 am to
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Well, it goes to his character.


And how is character relevant?

You don't get to attack character in the courtroom unless it is material.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:28 am to
lol. You see a video and watch a couple of seconds of what the liberal media wants you to see and believe. They say unarmed BLACK man shot by WHITE guy. You nor I know exactly what happened nor the history of these people or the guy that was shot. It doesn't matter just like the case of Zimmerman in Florida. Zimmerman was automatically guilty for shooting a black man by media and the hate crimes crowd. Needless to say there was a trial and guess what he was found innocent. You say don't bring up the victims past but maybe this poor innocent victim wasn't so innocent. Let the judicial system play out here before you run in here accusing everyone of being racist. If these guys really did shoot and innocent victim then frick them but please don't follow the same old innocent Black man shot by White people liberal bullshite. Rant over
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:29 am to
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The men themselves even admitted in their police interview that the worst the victim was accused of was looking in the window of a construction site.


Which people do all the time.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:29 am to
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Well, it goes to his character.



Nothing in the citizen's arrest statute says you can not just arrest but gun a man down because he committed a crime one time. Otherwise you could just go around shooting people in an attempt to detain them because you heard they served some time.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:29 am to
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Well, it goes to his character.


In this case his character is irrelevant because the shooter had no knowledge of his character from what I understand.

I'm waiting for the character investigation on the shooter....did he have any racially averse opinions? does he have any felony charges? is he a drug addict? you know things like that.
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:30 am to
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The men themselves even admitted in their police interview that the worst the victim was accused of was looking in the window of a construction site.


I see people do this all the time when a new house is being built. The white guys are fricked if that's all the evidence they have.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:31 am to
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They say unarmed BLACK man shot by WHITE guy. You nor I know exactly what happened nor the history of these people or the guy that was shot. It doesn't matter just like the case of Zimmerman in Florida. Zimmerman was automatically guilty for shooting a black man by media and the hate crimes crowd. Needless to say there was a trial and guess what he was found innocent.


Except this is nothing like Zimmerman.

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83731 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:32 am to
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Let the judicial system play out here before you run in here accusing everyone of being racist. If these guys really did shoot and innocent victim then frick them but please don't follow the same old innocent Black man shot by White people liberal bull shite. Rant over
I think they tried doing that

Which is why we're on the 3rd DA now
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:32 am to
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I see people do this all the time when a new house is being built. The white guys are fricked if that's all the evidence they have.


shite if the frame is up but there are no doors on new construction that's pretty much the same as having an open house
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68396 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:33 am to
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Except this is nothing like Zimmerman.


The basics of the shooting are the same and will be the same reason these guys don’t get a murder charge.

The first shot wasn’t fired until he rushed the shooter, then the second and third were fired while they were struggling over the gun.
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