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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:48 am to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:48 am to Mr. Hangover
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But with ALL of these situations, I always ask, ‘did the perpetrators shoot the guy BECAUSE he was black? Or did he shoot him for another reason and the guy just happened to be black?’
This certain situation may be a bad example, I’m not sure. But I don’t understand why it always has to be a white vs black type of deal
Idk, can’t think of any reason people would make this white vs black thing
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:48 am to Mo Jeaux
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Why don’t you wait for the whole story?
Shouldn't the shooters have followed the same advice?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:49 am to FAP SAM
I've read so many things and who knows what is what at this point.
Is the consensus that Arbery was initially seen in a new home construction?
Is the consensus that Arbery was initially seen in a new home construction?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:49 am to Lonnie Utah
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Shouldn't the shooters have followed the same advice?
Maybe. I think Georgia has a citizen’s arrest statute though.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:50 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Ahhh yes. Watching a video of the mi fee and make a determination that it was quite obviously a murder, is Jinping to conclusions because you’ve somehow come across some so called “allegations” about the victim that are probably irrelevant to the murder itself a possibly untrue anyways but you won’t actually tell us what you’ve heard?
I’ve already seen some allegations about the deceased that make me doubt the “jogging” story.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:50 am to OrangeEmpire
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Anyone buying into the notion that there is a gun in the roadway before the confrontation we see begins?
could be anything and the DA definitely would be making note of that publicly to avoid the shite show
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 7:52 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:51 am to FAP SAM
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Even if they saw this guy rob a house they don't have the right to hunt him down and kill him
There’s a citizen’s arrest statute in Georgia. If there initial intent was to kill him, they could have done that prior to the video starting. Bullets can travel more than a few feet from what I’ve heard.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:51 am to Havoc
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If it seems pretty certain that the person is going to use the gun
How can you be certain? Why wouldn’t they have shot him sooner if they were going to do it regardless?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:54 am to buckeye_vol
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Ahhh yes. Watching a video of the mi fee and make a determination that it was quite obviously a murder, is Jinping to conclusions because you’ve somehow come across some so called “allegations” about the victim that are probably irrelevant to the murder itself a possibly untrue anyways but you won’t actually tell us what you’ve heard?
Was it first degree murder in your opinion?
Well, I’ve heard that the deceased was previously arrested for carrying an illegal gun. I’ve also heard that he was quite far from his home for this jog. Again, just allegations. I don’t know them to be true for certain.
I just don’t buy the media presentation. Sorry not sorry.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:56 am to Mo Jeaux
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For what’s it’s worth, even the video doesn’t support first degree murder.
There are many prosecutors out there that could get first degree convictions on this....especially if the shooter wasn't a cop's son firmly on the thin blue line.
I mean what do you think their intentions were when they chased the guy...to arrest him, question him...for what they didn't see him do shite and he hadn't done shite.
This is exactly what cold blooded murder is whether it is 1st degree or 2nd degree is semantics.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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I’ve already seen some allegations about the deceased that make me doubt the “jogging” story.
What are they? They would have to be pretty damning to condone killing a man. Does looking in the window of someone's truck justify killing that person? That's pretty fricking sick if it does.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:59 am to Mo Jeaux
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Well, I’ve heard that the deceased was previously arrested for carrying an illegal gun.
If said gun was not on him at the time he was gunned down I'm not sure how that matters in this case.
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I’ve also heard that he was quite far from his home for this jog.
Does that justify killing a man?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:00 am to LSU316
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There are many prosecutors out there that could get first degree convictions on this....especially if the shooter wasn't a cop's son firmly on the thin blue line.
I mean what do you think their intentions were when they chased the guy...to arrest him, question him...for what they didn't see him do shite and he hadn't done shite.
This is exactly what cold blooded murder is whether it is 1st degree or 2nd degree is semantics.
You’re speculating on intent here. Again, if their intent was killing him, why wait?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:00 am to Mo Jeaux
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I’ve heard that the deceased was previously arrested for carrying an illegal gun. I’ve also heard that he was quite far from his home for this jog
This is completely irrelevant.
Does your citizens arrest statute allow for chasing someone down in a truck with guns drawn?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:00 am to Mo Jeaux
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Well, I’ve heard that the deceased was previously arrested for carrying an illegal gun. I’ve also heard that he was quite far from his home for this jog. Again, just allegations. I don’t know them to be true for certain.
I just don’t buy the media presentation. Sorry not sorry.
Just when I thought someone wouldn't really try to rationalize this massacre.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:01 am to Mo Jeaux
I didn’t use the word lynched, I just said what the video shows, an unarmed individual is jogging and two armed individuals, one standing in the back of the fricking truck, try to form a blockade to apprehend him. And now unarmed individual has been killed because the barbaric shite armed individuals pulled.
There’s no more possible facts, or allegations about a slain individual, that lead to the above situation being okay. ESPECIALLY The current ones we have, that they only saw him at an empty construction site & thought he could be responsible for recent break-ins. And the Initial DA putting it in writing the recommendation they shouldn’t be arrested for ANYTHING & two months later they still aren’t. These facts lead to the “modern day lynching” narrative.
There’s no more possible facts, or allegations about a slain individual, that lead to the above situation being okay. ESPECIALLY The current ones we have, that they only saw him at an empty construction site & thought he could be responsible for recent break-ins. And the Initial DA putting it in writing the recommendation they shouldn’t be arrested for ANYTHING & two months later they still aren’t. These facts lead to the “modern day lynching” narrative.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:02 am to Mo Jeaux
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You’re speculating on intent here.
You're speculating that because the victim, by rumor, was popped for having an illegal gun once that he committed a crime that would allow for these men to kill him in a "citizen's arrest" and that he was armed when it happened.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:02 am to LSU316
It’s hard to tell from the video but are they fighting for the gun when the first shot goes off? Was he even hit by the first shot? Do they say how many times he was shot?
Tough to watch regardless and I don’t want to watch it over and over for details.
Tough to watch regardless and I don’t want to watch it over and over for details.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:02 am to Mo Jeaux
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Again, if their intent was killing him, why wait?
So cops know the system right....it was probably to mask the real intent in order to concoct either a self defense argument (if he would have been armed) or to enable the use of the "citizen's arrest".
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:03 am to LSU316
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So cops know the system right....it was probably to mask the real intent in order to concoct either a self defense argument (if he would have been armed) or to enable the use of the "citizen's arrest".
OK. 
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