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re: Alleged re-infections occurring in NJ after 7 weeks of demonstrated antibodies

Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:22 am to
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Doubt it, but if so, it's time to go the other way lift all restrictions because nothing we do will make this go away.


Yep, we are just destroying our economy for nothing if this is true.

But it doesn’t make sense. These large urban areas have distinct curves showing cases per day plummeting over time. That can’t all be social distancing, can it?
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89880 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:24 am to
It’s time to just give up and go back to normal.

The shite is out there. Like the flu or the common cold or chicken pox or whatever, people are going to get it no matter what. It’s just the way of the world.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109036 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:26 am to
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South Korea's investigation into recovered patients who test positive for COVID-19 again found no live virus in the patients they examined, suggesting no risk of passing the virus to another person and that the patients were likely shedding noninfectious or dead virus particles, the Korea Centers for Disease Control (KCDC) said today.

Scientists examined findings for 285 (63.8%) of 447 recovered patients who had tested positive again for COVID-19. Most (59.6%) were tested again as part of screening, and 44.7% had symptoms. They identified and monitored 790 contacts of the 285 patients they studied, and so far, no positive cases have been found that would reflect virus transmission during the time when patients tested positive again.

Discharged patients tested positive again, on average, 44.9 days after symptom onset, with a range of 8 to 82 days. The time from discharge to testing positive again averaged 14.3 days, with a range of 1 to 37 days.

Viral cell culturing was negative for all 108 samples that underwent lab analysis. Tests identified other respiratory viruses in three samples.


University of Minnesota Infectious Disease Article on SK's Retesting - May 19, 2020

Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4168 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:20 am to
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Godfather1
This guy gets it.
Posted by Not_Sure
Member since Jul 2020
95 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:37 am to
Nah, bullshite.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12678 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:39 am to
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Who is getting lots of tests?
Many medical professionals
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21733 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:56 am to
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BULL


frickING


shite


This motherfricker needs to lose his license for inciting fear like this. It has real world consequences.

The test can detect dead virus. We went over all this before. It was proven in South Korea.

Notice they don’t say anything about the patients having symptoms


I tried the read the article but that website was killing me! If they don't have symptoms then it was likely shedding of virus particles or just a false positive. There is plenty of evidence that antibody response varies across the infected population and fades pretty quickly. At some point, it is likely that we will see people getting infected a second time with symptoms. The question is when does that happen? 6 months? 1 year? 2 years?


Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9875 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:57 am to
bullshite.

Obvious attempt to control narrative.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481261 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:58 am to
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The question is when does that happen? 6 months? 1 year? 2 years?

i saw some posts on a super-leftist FB group i follow say they read where scientists believe it's 2-3 months, which would suck
Posted by haikarate
Member since May 2011
1652 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:06 am to
BIL update. He was admitted to the hospital yesterday for virus like conditions. He was given a rapid covid test and it came back positive. Turns out it was a false positive.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21733 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:10 am to
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i saw some posts on a super-leftist FB group i follow say they read where scientists believe it's 2-3 months, which would suck



I've seen pretty good arguments for several different time frames and I guess we will find out soon enough. What would suck more? Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) with reinfections...
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8242 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:10 am to
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Well this pretty much ruined my morning

If no one dies or is severely sick from a second infection then it’s not that big of deal. It’s still an immunity from severe outcomes which is what we all should be concerned about.

On another note, why is testing so unreliable if one droplet of spit is so contagious?
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
10293 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:27 am to
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More evidence we just have to go about our lives. It is something we are going to have to live with.

There is no room for this kind of thinking in this world. How dare you
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79904 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:44 am to
Did anyone do a simple google search on this guy?

He is either a pediatrician or on the new york pandemic response team. I can't find him anywhere in the area he supposedly services.

daily mail
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:46 am to
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My brother in law had in March and was told this morning that he has it again


Is he noticeably sick? Showing symptoms?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11843 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:35 pm to
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More evidence we just have to go about our lives. It is something we are going to have to live with.


This.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38815 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:39 pm to
“.... just gotta sacrifice for a little bit”

Over this shite .

Just wait until flu season. Oh my god the fall will be awful with the election ramping up.. the fear porn wil be XXXX
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 4:38 pm to
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BIL update. He was admitted to the hospital yesterday for virus like conditions. He was given a rapid covid test and it came back positive. Turns out it was a false positive.


I know someone that was hospitalized for a viral condition.
16 days and 8 test later he tested positive.
I’m not terribly confident in these test. Tests are most accurate after 14 days of symptoms.
How many false negatives are walking around spreading this stuff.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57607 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:14 pm to
There have been 10 million people tested positive. If 5% were false positives then there are 500,000 who think they had COVID-19, but they did not. Of those, surely 5% have since been infected with COVID-19. That makes 25,000 people who “have gotten it twice”. But they haven’t.

Statistics, people!!!
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