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re: All Greek Activities Suspended Indefinitely at LSU

Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:35 am to
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27574 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:35 am to
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Well I'm sure they've all paid their dues by now and booked some bands and third party vendors for post-football game parties and such... So a shite ton of deposits are about to be down the drain. Yeah, I'd be pretty livid if I was them.



How does it change for the house? Meaning the members actual living situation? Are LSU Frat houses on campus? I was a Greek but it was a MUCH smaller scale than a massive southern school like LSU.

Can these members "homes" be taken away? They've paid dues which went to costs of the house. Can they be forced out and forced to find a dorm? I assume that is impossible at this point in a school year?

I know how it would have worked for us in the early 90's. We would have been out on our arse as we were leasing a lodge from the school. Just wondering what the situation is with LSU? I assume some of these houses are pretty large and have been fraternity houses for decades? Are they owned by a national chapter?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33917 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:36 am to
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oh man, the horror. kids are dying. shite is out of hand.


No, it's not.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69493 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:37 am to
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If it was you or your "group" being punished for the actions of completely unrelated persons you'd be wringing your wrists in fury.


I don't think you know what that means lol

Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19120 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:37 am to
The Greek system as a whole facilitates binge drinking
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:39 am to
Sounds like it's just social activities. I'm sure they can still live in the house, use their meal plans and such. But they overpaid for all that now . Guess they can redistribute unused funds back to the members
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:39 am to
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So a small amount/degree of unfair undeserving punishment is okay?


If you're F. King? Probably.

This particular event was the straw that broke the camel's back after a rough week or so for LSU.

The last thing LSU needs right now is LSU-sanctioned parties for students on campus with alcohol. It's a terrible look, so LSU is controlling one of the few things it can realistically enforce.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175970 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:42 am to
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No, it's not.



you really can't go tell that to the deceased parents. you certainly can't tell that to the public in light of recent circumstances.
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:42 am to
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Your exaggeration needs to be somewhat related for it to be effective.

The reasons for prohibition don't even share anything in common with this scenario.


I would call it somewhat related... we can argue the exact reasons for the prohibition, but there was a general disdain for how alcohol made SOME people act, so a wide-sweeping ban was issued. Just making the point that in general that knee jerk reaction is not the best response.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37883 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:56 am to
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The Greek system as a whole facilitates binge drinking


As does LSU Football. I doubt that one person dying from alcohol consumption while tailgating would result in the suspension of LSU Football.

Alcohol abuse is a problem on college campuses. It's not a fraternity problem it's a university problem. And generalizing that the entire Greek system and their members are at fault is total bullshite.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:58 am to
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Alcohol abuse is a problem on college campuses. It's not a fraternity problem it's a university problem. And generalizing that the entire Greek system and their members are at fault is total bullshite.


Which is easier to enforce for LSU - no Greek activities or no drinking while tailgating?
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:03 am to
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As does LSU football.


I think we're all adults here and can discuss without anybody getting offended why LSU football would, in this hypothetical, get a lot more rope than the Greek system.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37883 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:14 am to
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I think we're all adults here and can discuss without anybody getting offended why LSU football would, in this hypothetical, get a lot more rope than the Greek system.

Well, yeah. The point is that LSU can overreact and take a "big stand" when it's easy for them. But if similar circumstances happened in a category that threatened their bank account, they'd shrug and give their "We're sorry this happened, but, there's nothing we can do" speech.

And it's unfair in either case, even if the football example would never, ever take place.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34876 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:15 am to
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And it's unfair



I keep seeing this posted.


I thought everybody's mantra on here was "life isn't fair".

What happened to that?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21484 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:17 am to
We still talking about this?! How much Frat Boy chest thumping, Welder bashing, GDI hating can one thread have?!
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2919 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:20 am to
Disagree. I know a few people that were greeks that didn't drink. Just not their thing. They still had fun at tail gates and socials.

Nothing wrong with that. I enjoy drinking to have a better time. Don't classify the whole group with that when there are people who don't classify under it.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
45118 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:21 am to
It's only #maga when it's something they like
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:22 am to
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We still talking about this?


It's either this or the "Lady Gaga cancels her show" thread.

Slim pickings on the OT this morning.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37883 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:23 am to
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Disagree. I know a few people that were greeks that didn't drink.


You have guys in fraternities who are recovering alcoholics. We always had a few. It wasn't a big deal.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33730 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:23 am to
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All Greek Activities Suspended Indefinitely at LSU
quote:
oh man, the horror. kids are dying. shite is out of hand.


No, it's not.


last death like this 20 years ago...

how many lsu students
died in drunk driving accidents
suicide
murder
overdosing

during the same time frame.


ironically The current DA defended the people responsible for the last death like this - all misdemeanors.... which I am sorry - this aint misdemeanor
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:23 am to
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I think we're all adults here and can discuss without anybody getting offended why LSU football would, in this hypothetical, get a lot more rope than the Greek system.


I'm having a hard time seeing why people don't understand this temporary suspension. I sympathize with those who weren't doing any wrong, and I understand why the believe it is unfair, but this punishment shouldn't be a surprise. LSU is trying to make it appear they're taking a hardline stance on this thing, and F. King is trying to minimize LSU's risk and any national PR backlash.

I'm not suggesting this was the fair way to handle it, but in today's climate, this was pretty much a given. Hell, you could argue this punishment may save the Greek system at LSU. They can circle the wagons, refresh everyone on their anti-hazing stance and perhaps update their policies on alcohol, then continue business as normal in a week or two.
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