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re: All Greek Activities Suspended Indefinitely at LSU
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:35 am to slackster
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:35 am to slackster
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Well I'm sure they've all paid their dues by now and booked some bands and third party vendors for post-football game parties and such... So a shite ton of deposits are about to be down the drain. Yeah, I'd be pretty livid if I was them.
How does it change for the house? Meaning the members actual living situation? Are LSU Frat houses on campus? I was a Greek but it was a MUCH smaller scale than a massive southern school like LSU.
Can these members "homes" be taken away? They've paid dues which went to costs of the house. Can they be forced out and forced to find a dorm? I assume that is impossible at this point in a school year?
I know how it would have worked for us in the early 90's. We would have been out on our arse as we were leasing a lodge from the school. Just wondering what the situation is with LSU? I assume some of these houses are pretty large and have been fraternity houses for decades? Are they owned by a national chapter?
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:36 am to Chad504boy
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oh man, the horror. kids are dying. shite is out of hand.
No, it's not.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:37 am to Havoc
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If it was you or your "group" being punished for the actions of completely unrelated persons you'd be wringing your wrists in fury.
I don't think you know what that means lol
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:37 am to Fewer Kilometers
The Greek system as a whole facilitates binge drinking
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:39 am to LSU alum wannabe
Sounds like it's just social activities. I'm sure they can still live in the house, use their meal plans and such. But they overpaid for all that now
. Guess they can redistribute unused funds back to the members
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:39 am to Havoc
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So a small amount/degree of unfair undeserving punishment is okay?
If you're F. King? Probably.
This particular event was the straw that broke the camel's back after a rough week or so for LSU.
The last thing LSU needs right now is LSU-sanctioned parties for students on campus with alcohol. It's a terrible look, so LSU is controlling one of the few things it can realistically enforce.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:42 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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No, it's not.
you really can't go tell that to the deceased parents. you certainly can't tell that to the public in light of recent circumstances.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:42 am to magildachunks
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Your exaggeration needs to be somewhat related for it to be effective.
The reasons for prohibition don't even share anything in common with this scenario.
I would call it somewhat related... we can argue the exact reasons for the prohibition, but there was a general disdain for how alcohol made SOME people act, so a wide-sweeping ban was issued. Just making the point that in general that knee jerk reaction is not the best response.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:56 am to djangochained
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The Greek system as a whole facilitates binge drinking
As does LSU Football. I doubt that one person dying from alcohol consumption while tailgating would result in the suspension of LSU Football.
Alcohol abuse is a problem on college campuses. It's not a fraternity problem it's a university problem. And generalizing that the entire Greek system and their members are at fault is total bullshite.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:58 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Alcohol abuse is a problem on college campuses. It's not a fraternity problem it's a university problem. And generalizing that the entire Greek system and their members are at fault is total bullshite.
Which is easier to enforce for LSU - no Greek activities or no drinking while tailgating?
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:03 am to Fewer Kilometers
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As does LSU football.
I think we're all adults here and can discuss without anybody getting offended why LSU football would, in this hypothetical, get a lot more rope than the Greek system.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:14 am to Walking the Earth
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I think we're all adults here and can discuss without anybody getting offended why LSU football would, in this hypothetical, get a lot more rope than the Greek system.
Well, yeah. The point is that LSU can overreact and take a "big stand" when it's easy for them. But if similar circumstances happened in a category that threatened their bank account, they'd shrug and give their "We're sorry this happened, but, there's nothing we can do" speech.
And it's unfair in either case, even if the football example would never, ever take place.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:15 am to Fewer Kilometers
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And it's unfair
I keep seeing this posted.
I thought everybody's mantra on here was "life isn't fair".
What happened to that?
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:17 am to BayouBengals03
We still talking about this?! How much Frat Boy chest thumping, Welder bashing, GDI hating can one thread have?!
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:20 am to djangochained
Disagree. I know a few people that were greeks that didn't drink. Just not their thing. They still had fun at tail gates and socials.
Nothing wrong with that. I enjoy drinking to have a better time. Don't classify the whole group with that when there are people who don't classify under it.
Nothing wrong with that. I enjoy drinking to have a better time. Don't classify the whole group with that when there are people who don't classify under it.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:21 am to magildachunks
It's only #maga when it's something they like
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:22 am to tketaco
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We still talking about this?
It's either this or the "Lady Gaga cancels her show" thread.
Slim pickings on the OT this morning.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:23 am to BlindTiger7
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Disagree. I know a few people that were greeks that didn't drink.
You have guys in fraternities who are recovering alcoholics. We always had a few. It wasn't a big deal.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:23 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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All Greek Activities Suspended Indefinitely at LSU
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oh man, the horror. kids are dying. shite is out of hand.
No, it's not.
last death like this 20 years ago...
how many lsu students
died in drunk driving accidents
suicide
murder
overdosing
during the same time frame.
ironically The current DA defended the people responsible for the last death like this - all misdemeanors.... which I am sorry - this aint misdemeanor
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:23 am to Walking the Earth
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I think we're all adults here and can discuss without anybody getting offended why LSU football would, in this hypothetical, get a lot more rope than the Greek system.
I'm having a hard time seeing why people don't understand this temporary suspension. I sympathize with those who weren't doing any wrong, and I understand why the believe it is unfair, but this punishment shouldn't be a surprise. LSU is trying to make it appear they're taking a hardline stance on this thing, and F. King is trying to minimize LSU's risk and any national PR backlash.
I'm not suggesting this was the fair way to handle it, but in today's climate, this was pretty much a given. Hell, you could argue this punishment may save the Greek system at LSU. They can circle the wagons, refresh everyone on their anti-hazing stance and perhaps update their policies on alcohol, then continue business as normal in a week or two.
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