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re: All Freemasons, Shriners Check In Thread
Posted on 3/4/17 at 2:52 pm to TN Bhoy
Posted on 3/4/17 at 2:52 pm to TN Bhoy
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You deny that the Masons organised anti-Catholic riots in the 1800s and 1900s in the US, leading to hundreds of deaths and the destruction of a massive amount of property?
Yes. Provide me examples, I will gladly read through them.
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You deny that the Masonic government of Mexico, of which you needed to be a Mason to be a member, persecuted the Catholic Church, leading to the Cristero revolt, and that said government stayed in power by force until the fricking George W. Bush administration?
Yes. The Masonic fraternity is not a system of government, and it is not a government. It is a social organization. Is it possible that members of the lodge were also members of the government? Yes. But that doesn't mean that the lodge controlled the government.
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You deny that the Masons assassinated President Gabriel Moreno of Ecuador, despite the Masonic Lodges in Germany taking credit at the time?
Is it possible that a member of a lodge participated in the assignation? Sure. But he didn't do it because he was a mason nor because the lodge required it of him. The assassin probably also had a library card, that doesn't mean that the library forced him to kill somebody.
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You deny that the Masons organise anti-Catholic marches and riots in the occupied counties of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and Canada, despite these being regularly covered by news organisations like the BBC
Please provide evidence. As stated before, I'll happily look through it.
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:11 pm to TN Bhoy
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You deny that the Masons organised anti-Catholic riots in the 1800s and 1900s in the US, leading to hundreds of deaths and the destruction of a massive amount of property?
You deny that the Masonic government of Mexico, of which you needed to be a Mason to be a member, persecuted the Catholic Church, leading to the Cristero revolt, and that said government stayed in power by force until the fricking George W. Bush administration?
You deny that the Masons assassinated President Gabriel Moreno of Ecuador, despite the Masonic Lodges in Germany taking credit at the time?
You deny that the Masons organise anti-Catholic marches and riots in the occupied counties of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and Canada, despite these being regularly covered by news organisations like the BBC?
Yes. I deny it. But acknowledge you have conspiracy issues and a lack of Z's on your keyboard. ?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:18 pm to TN Bhoy
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like the BBC?
Why does it always come back to this?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:20 pm to FreeState
I'm Catholic in good standing. Not allowed to be a Mason or Shriner.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:25 pm to fatboydave
The conspiracy theories mentioned thus far are over my head. I have been a Mason for almost 50 years. Never once have I heard anyone at any meeting (I've attended dozens and dozens of Lodges) speak about politics, a particular religion, beheading anyone, burning crosses, churches, synagogues, or mosques.
I've never known of any Mason to do any of the things mentioned that might have happened many years ago. Perhaps they happened.
I do know this. The Lodge and appendant bodies I belong to spend all their time doing good for others, usually anonymously. Hospital work (Shriners of which I am not a member), scholarships for kids in need, helping victims of house fires or other bad luck, and on and on.
I can trace Masons throughout several generations on my side, my wife's side, and my mother, wife and daughters are all Eastern Star members (appendant body of Masonry).
Uncles, great-uncles, many cousins and both of my brothers, all Masons.
If anyone has a problem with the Masonic Lodge, more power to them. But please don't knock Masons as a whole based on what someone else tells you or might have happened centuries ago. That ain't us.
As far as Catholics, I am sure at one time there was quite a rub, according to my late father. My mother was Catholic by the way. But I have sat in Lodge with numerous Catholics, all who told me their church came first and that they had talked it over with their priest before joining. Church is supposed to come first, by the way.
I've never known of any Mason to do any of the things mentioned that might have happened many years ago. Perhaps they happened.
I do know this. The Lodge and appendant bodies I belong to spend all their time doing good for others, usually anonymously. Hospital work (Shriners of which I am not a member), scholarships for kids in need, helping victims of house fires or other bad luck, and on and on.
I can trace Masons throughout several generations on my side, my wife's side, and my mother, wife and daughters are all Eastern Star members (appendant body of Masonry).
Uncles, great-uncles, many cousins and both of my brothers, all Masons.
If anyone has a problem with the Masonic Lodge, more power to them. But please don't knock Masons as a whole based on what someone else tells you or might have happened centuries ago. That ain't us.
As far as Catholics, I am sure at one time there was quite a rub, according to my late father. My mother was Catholic by the way. But I have sat in Lodge with numerous Catholics, all who told me their church came first and that they had talked it over with their priest before joining. Church is supposed to come first, by the way.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:28 pm to TN Bhoy
You sir, are retarded
Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:30 pm to FreeState
The initiation to become a level 32 mason requires you to drive around at night time with your car lights off and kill the first Catholic that flashes his/hers brights at you.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 4:41 pm to Rebel
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The initiation to become a level 32 mason requires you to drive around at night time with your car lights off and kill the first Catholic that flashes his/hers brights at you.
And now we have to have you flogged because you told everyone.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 5:45 pm to SlapahoeTribe
MM checking in
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:00 pm to BobDobalina
Master Mason, Shriner and past master of a Masonic lodge. Make fun if you want to but almost every penny the shrine makes goes directly to the hospital
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:13 pm to FreeState
For a good read, Google " The Day The Civil War Stopped". Great story about what being a Mason means to those who are...with a true Louisiana connection.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:20 pm to SlapahoeTribe
So like a Moose or Elks Lodge.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:23 pm to FreeState
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If anyone has a problem with the Masonic Lodge, more power to them. But please don't knock Masons as a whole based on what someone else tells you or might have happened centuries ago. That ain't us.
I can tell you this for a fact there were plants that you could never advance in your job title if you weren't a Mason and this was in the 60's and 70's. My Dad was working a plant once when a manager who was mason notice his Knights of Columbus ring and told him he would fired if he wore that fricking ring again.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:26 pm to kingbob
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Did you know that Freemason membership is grounds for excommunication by the Catholic Church?
Used to be and it wasn't so much the Masons as it was that you couldn't belong to a secret organization.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:27 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Most Masons I meet are black
Blacks have their lodge and whites have theirs.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:39 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Used to be and it wasn't so much the Masons as it was that you couldn't belong to a secret organization.
Masonry is not a 'secret' organization! My Lodge meets the second Saturday night of the month, in the Lodge room located above a local Baptist Church. Notices of said meetings are sometimes placed in local newspapers as a reminder to members. So much for it being a secret organization.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:49 pm to FreeState
They do have cool little cars in all the parades
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:56 pm to rootisback
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They do have cool little cars in all the parades
Those are Shriners. They predicate their membership on being a Master Mason. All Shriners are Masons, but not all Masons are Shriners.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:00 pm to LSU Tiger Bob
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Masonry is not a 'secret' organization! My Lodge meets the second Saturday night of the month, in the Lodge room located above a local Baptist Church. Notices of said meetings are sometimes placed in local newspapers as a reminder to members. So much for it being a secret organization.
dates and times are not the secret that Catholicism had a problem with
IIRC it was the secret rituals that some Catholics deemed may be Pagan or Satanic...and since they did not know what the secret rituals were or what they meant, they tried to protect "the flock" and decided you could not be part of this organization and be a Catholic.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:10 pm to Pepperidge
So they say(said)
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