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re: Alex Jones ordered to pay Sandy Hook parents more than $4M

Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:18 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:18 am to
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No. I'm not going to sue the newspaper because they wrote a story about me or my company that's not true. I don't deserve their money. You are part of the sue culture


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Jones
Alex?


Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50767 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:20 am to
You're serious about that take?
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90500 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:22 am to
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Maybe more people holding media accountable for telling the truth would help alleviate the fake news for clicks and add sales problem (though I won’t hold my breath).


Not holding my breath either.


SS,
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5135 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:24 am to
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he still has other outstanding lawsuits to other parents in TX or CT


Both
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68589 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:30 am to
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repeatedly claiming the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history was a hoax.


Why do they constantly feel the need to lie?

Va tech shooter killed more people.

Why can’t they just get simple facts straight?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113941 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:32 am to
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I can't imagine how dumb someone has to be to think that was all a hoax.



Have you been to the political board?

Does anyone remember "pizzagate"? Where that dude went into a pizza joint owned by some gays, with a gun, because he was convinced it was a bunch of kiddie touchers grooming kids in the back of the store?

This is the wikipage about it.
Wikipedia

That was a conspiracy that spread on 4chan and other boards. What's crazy is that it seems like a lot of people who get caught up in it are not generally stupid people. They just get sucked into a hole keep going further down.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21839 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:32 am to
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$150 million being sought — in compensatory damages to the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed


Sorry but frick these parents
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68589 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:34 am to
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Defamation laws have a valid place in society.


Not in its current application.

Journalist just say it’s a mistake or an opinion and just move on. You can legitimately call millions of people white supremacists on tv and nothing happen to you.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8414 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:35 am to
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Were any of these people arrested and charged?

Did they all get off on the ‘some dude on the radio saying crazy shite made me do it’ defense?


Thanks for calibrating the common sense equation that needed to be addressed.

If "followers" crimes are the basis for indictment, where is the lawsuit against Maxine Waters and other sh*tstirrers(D) who condoned violence against conservatives?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:40 am to
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If "followers" crimes are the basis for indictment, where is the lawsuit against Maxine Waters and other sh*tstirrers(D) who condoned violence against conservatives?

He's being sued. There was no arrest for incitement.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9345 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:42 am to
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People lie about things all the time. Those lies typically piss someone off. Twitter and other social media platforms is full of this type of stuff.

Did it really cause harm to the parents that this asshat said it was a hoax? Im sure it pissed them off, but harm? Seems to set the precedent that if a person tells a lie or conveys false info, then they can sue because if it makes them angry.

They can sue if the false statements caused them harm. That’s the entire purpose of defamation law. They are claiming Alex Jones’ false statements led to harassment and death threats.

It’s no different in principle than a company claiming that someone’s false statements caused the company to lose customers, or an individual claiming that someone’s false statements caused the individual to lose their job. In any of these cases, the harm comes from a third party (the customers or employer) but is caused by the false statements.

The difficult part is putting a monetary value on the harm from stuff like harassment and death threats. Jones could have argued this in court. He also could have tried to argue that his statements didn’t have anything to do with the death threats and harass manner. Hell, he could have argued that the claims weren’t false.. or that he he didn’t believe them to be false. But instead of actually arguing his case, he stalled for years and lost by default for refusing to comply with discovery. That’s pretty telling IMO.
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Can the wife of the retired police officer who was murdered by blm rioters sue CNN and all the other media for praising blm while they murdered her husband in cold blood?

frick BLM, but you don’t seem to understand what defamation even is. If CNN makes false statements about the police officer and those statements lead to his murder, the family absolutely has a case. That is not the same thing as “praising BLM” though.
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Agree with me or disagree with me. Don't care. I've decided to have my opinion on things and screw everyone else's from here on out. Done having discussions. If you think I'm wrong, cool. Keep your opinion, I won't try to change it because I really don't care about your opinion.



“Here’s my opinion but don’t reply to it because I don’t care what you think.”
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20098 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:44 am to
Getting off light for only $4M.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90500 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:44 am to
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Journalist just say it’s a mistake or an opinion and just move on. You can legitimately call millions of people white supremacists on tv and nothing happen to you.


Or hide behind 'sources'
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
1886 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:45 am to
Robbie Parker getting into character
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3708 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:47 am to
Just curious, but why is this being tried in Texas?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:49 am to
Alex Jones lives in Texas and does his show from Texas. I assume his allegedly defamatory statements were made in Texas. Though I imagine there are also other courts with jurisdiction. I believe there are cases also pending in Connecticut.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:56 am to
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Does anyone remember "pizzagate"? Where that dude went into a pizza joint owned by some gays, with a gun, because he was convinced it was a bunch of kiddie touchers grooming kids in the back of the store?


I'm pretty sure whoever started that took that plotline from Justified and ran with it just to frick with gullible neckbeards.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98974 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:58 am to
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So he has to pay them 4 mil for saying mean things on the radio and hurting feelings? Right or wrong of him to say, this seems outrageous


No. He has to pay for perpetuating a lie to his followers because he was making money off of the lie. One of his own employees at InfoWars harassed the parents to the point of being charged as well.

That’s a smidge more than hurt feelings and what defamation suits should be used to address.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98974 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:04 am to
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Getting off light for only $4M.


It’s my understanding that’s just compensatory damages and a jury will now decide the punitive amount he’ll have to pay. So he will very likely end up paying quite a bit more.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7309 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:04 am to
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Getting off light for only $4M.


Its not over. The parents are still pursuing for punitive damages
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