re: Alec Baldwin Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter in ‘Rust’ Shooting (OP Updated)

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frick off with this nonsense. Any normal person that points a gun at and kills someone with no justifiable reason should be charged for that action.

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I understand that he actually pulled the trigger, but how many triggers are pulled in Hollywood daily?

Had he not been the manager/producer, would he be charged? Had he simply been the actor taking assurance from the hired armorer, is he still at fault?

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If he’s going to handle firearms and be responsible for everything that happens on set, he should become a gun expert or hire an expert and not a diversity hire. You leftist never want to been held accountable for your actions. He killed a fricking women and your pulling on the excuses

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Is he being charged because he pulled the trigger or because he hired the armorer without proper due diligence into competencies?

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18 months is all he can get? Damn, he killed somebody.

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I highly doubt he does any time in jail. At worst, he'll be ordered to do some BS community service, consisting of hosting some Hollywood fund raising event for Actors Against Guns, or some shite like that, to fight against NRA. He'll dine on delicious foods and hob knob with Deniro and Clooney, and have photographers everywhere. He'll be drunk as shite.

And maybe he'll show up for a photo op serving turkey dinners to Hollywood homeless at Thanksgiving.

He'll then be awarded a Lifetime Achievement Award for his unselfish philanthropy in doing what he did, at the Oscars.

His record will be expunged, and he'll be laughing his arse off at the common man that thought he would actually have to be punished like some commoner.

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You can tell the difference from holding a gun if it’s been loaded with blanks versus real ammo?

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You open the chamber and look - it's not hard

And yea I could easily telly tell the difference between a blank and actual ammo - most people with a functioning brain could.

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Not saying baldwin isn't at fault, but he wouldn't necessarily be able to easily tell the difference between a movie set dummy round and a live round.

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The difference is literally in the post above yours. It’s plainly obvious and anyone who says otherwise shouldn’t be allowed within 50 ft of a firearm.

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just can't believe they had live ammunition on set... like why? And also that the gun and other prop guns were allowed to be used by the crew to go shoot at beer cans that day for fun. Like what type of safety protocol are we running here, fellas?

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If he’s the producer on this set and he allowed these basic safety protocols to be ignored so he could entertain himself and others, he 100% should be charged with involuntary manslaughter charges.

Because he allowed the situation where a gun with live ammo could be interchanged with a prop gun.

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One of these is a blank. The other is not…. My 8 year old son could tell the difference. You’re a clown.

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When it’s loaded in a gun?

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This stance bothers the crap out of me.

“They’re civilians. They were told it was unloaded.”

Yea, that argument doesn’t fly for any other American.

Stop giving actors special treatment.

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It's a totally different situation though. And I explained why he should still be charged. Civilians aren't filming movies under the supervision of a production crew and hired professionals to guide them on proper use.

For comparison, a car chase scene. There's no comparison to hoodrats blocking off a street to do burnouts and an actor doing it in a closed, permitted street. If someone wandered onto the closed set and died because there was a speeding scene being filmed, there's no way you can earnestly tell me you'd want the driver charged because "everyone knows speeding and reckless driving is a crime." Unless, of course, there was a safety protocol being ignored. Just like Alec Baldwin is being charged for.

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Is he being charged because he pulled the trigger or because he hired the armorer without proper due diligence into competencies?

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He:
--participated in hiring the incompetent armorer
--knew or should have known there was a very serious problem with firearms on the set because of the multiple accidental misfires (almost certainly knew about this) and crew using guns for target practice (should have known, and possibly he was participating though that's unclear)
--took a gun that the AD said was clear without the armorer being there or demonstrating it was clear
--"practiced" with the gun before the take
--pointed the gun at a person, when he should never have done that (even during a take)
--pulled the trigger on the gun when he should not have done that until it was time to do that for the take, and never should have done that even during a take if a person was standing where he was pointing the gun

You are trying to make this a binary where he is either an actor with no responsibility or he can only be liable for hiring a bad armorer, but that not how it works or how it should work. He's being charged because he pulled the trigger and shot someone in circumstances where he's clearly at fault for doing that, even though he didn't intend to shoot her.

If he goes to prison, no one is going to resist his Shweddy Cornhole.