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re: Alabama cops shoots man exiting his vehicle with his wallet
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:22 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:22 am to NYNolaguy1
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Like getting out holding a wallet?
Given the circumstances, it would appear so, unfortunately.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:23 am to Pecker
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The cop is guilty of poor decision-making
At least his poor decision making was logical
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:23 am to tgrbaitn08
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the cop told him to put his hands up...he put his hands up like the cop told him to
Then the cop shot him
Did the cop ask him to exit the vehicle?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:23 am to meauxjeaux2
Seriously, when did they stop teaching people to sit in their vehicles with their hands on the steering wheel until the LEO got the the car and asked them to move?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:24 am to tgrbaitn08
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At least his poor decision making was logical
The circumstances leading to his poor decision (determined after the fact) are logical, especially when you consider the multitude of factors involved. Which we can revisit if necessary.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:25 am to ell_13
quote:This I don't believe, 99.9 percent of interactions with traffic stops do not involve a need to draw a gun.
-The cop deals with terrible people all day every day and is so stressed he can't see a wallet for a wallet or that the man had his hands up
I think the problem here is overtraining on hostile situations, certainly this cop has seen that same scenario in training and has learned that a person exiting a vehicle in that manner is armed...they go thru these scenarios all the time.
I think the policeman is in the wrong of course, but I think it shows that training has bred a mentality that results in this kind of behavior.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:25 am to Pecker
quote:No. It is completely reasonable to be out of your car after an accident to give information to the responding officer with or without instruction.
"Victim blaming" are buzzwords used when people want to get around the actual topic.
Could the victim have acted more reasonably given the circumstances? Yes or no?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:25 am to Pecker
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Did the cop ask him to exit the vehicle?
It was a traffic accident, numbnuts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:25 am to Pecker
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Stupidity, Anger, Didn't have his glasses on, Lost his mind, Hates writing traffic reports
So we agree that his mindset and decision-making was problematic. Let's address the other issues:
Stupidity as it pertains to what?
Poor vision as a result of not having his glasses on, as it pertains to what?
quote:
Hates writing traffic reports
Do you believe that it's logical to assume that he'd rather deal with a shooting that a traffic report? Does that make sense to you?
I never heard back on this.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:25 am to Pecker
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Did the cop ask him to exit the vehicle?
it doesnt fricking matter, this wasnt a traffic stop
The guy isnt under arrest or being detained...he called the cops to respond to a traffic accident.
are you really this fricking stupid?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:25 am to tigerfoot
quote:It's not my comment. It's one of Pecker's false assumptions. Read my post again.
This I don't believe
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:26 am to tgrbaitn08
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it doesnt fricking matter, this wasnt a traffic stop
His being shot is evidence that it does matter, at least as it relates to being shot. Unless you believe that being shot is of no consequence. Which if that's the case I don't believe we would be having this discussion.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:26 am to Pecker
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So why did he shoot the man?
I think it was because the cop was so fat. Fat people get flustered when they have to exert any physical energy. Their hearts simply can't pump sufficient blood to their brain for them to think rationally. Plus the call to respond to this traffic accident probably interrupted him stuffing his face on meal break. Never interrupt a fat arse's mealtime. You are just asking for trouble at that point.
Seriously, fat cops make me mad. Being obese should be disqualifying for the position.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:26 am to Pecker
quote:What circumstances? A routine minor accident with all involved hanging out waiting on police?
Given the circumstances
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:26 am to Pecker
quote:I don't have time to answer every irrelevant question you ask. Especially, the ones in response to my sarcasm.
I never heard back on this.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:26 am to Pecker
this is the most fricked up thing about how this went down.
The guy in the SUV sees the cop pull up then sees the truck driver walking towards the cop
Why should he conclude that he should have remained in his vehicle after seeing the truck driver walking towards the cop and the truck driver wasn't being gunned down by the cop?
The guy in the SUV sees the cop pull up then sees the truck driver walking towards the cop
Why should he conclude that he should have remained in his vehicle after seeing the truck driver walking towards the cop and the truck driver wasn't being gunned down by the cop?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:27 am to Impotent Waffle
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He did shoot him without cause,
but that is what is debatable. he made a mistake that could have been based on bad training, eyesight, bad day, whatever...if he did it with malice he would be in jail or in the least fired.
Do you think he shot the guy thinking he was holding a gun or a wallet?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:27 am to Elleshoe
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It was a traffic accident, numbnuts
Does it appear that it matters as it pertains to an officer feeling threatened (as a result of poor training, poor vision, clouded judgment, etc...)?
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