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re: Alabama cops shoots man exiting his vehicle with his wallet

Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:10 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:10 am to
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I think it's logical to assume that the person exiting the vehicle startled a potentially poorly-trained officer.
It is NOT logical to assume that getting out of a car after an accident poses a threat to anyone, training or not.
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I think it's then logical that the startled officer acted like a startled person who felt threatened and used force to counter what he perceived as threatening.
So you are basing EVERYTHING on an officer scared of a person leaving a car?
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:10 am to
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This is just stupid


So why did he shoot the man?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:10 am to
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I think it's logical to assume that the person exiting the vehicle startled a potentially poorly-trained officer. I think it's then logical that the startled officer acted like a startled person who felt threatened and used force to counter what he perceived as threatening.





based off of this gif...nothing suggest that the person exiting the vehicle startled a potentially poorly-trained officer.

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who felt threatened


nothing suggest that the person exiting the vehicle threatened the officer
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:11 am to
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It is NOT logical to assume that getting out of a car after an accident poses a threat to anyone, training or not.


So why did he shoot the man?
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:12 am to
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nothing suggest that the person exiting the vehicle threatened the officer


Do you think it would have been less threatening for him to stay in the vehicle, or was this the best move for the victim?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:12 am to
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So why did he shoot the man


Maybe he's poorly trained? Maybe he felt like killing someone that night? Either way, he was wrong.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87991 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:12 am to
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Do you know what you're saying? Honestly
Yes. Do you know how ignorant you are? I bet you don't.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:13 am to
Holy frick......


That's why I tell my kids all the time, "cops are not your friend". They are people with guns that can shoot you at any point and claim they were scared for their lives.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:13 am to
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Maybe he's poorly trained? Maybe he felt like killing someone that night? Either way, he was wrong.


Do you think it's more logical to assume that he was poorly-trained and wrongly felt threatened, or that he simply felt like shooting a man that day?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:13 am to
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Do you think it would have been less threatening for him to stay in the vehicle,


the officer had his gun drawn before the man even opened the door
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:13 am to
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Yes. Do you know how ignorant you are? I bet you don't.




Ok, then tell me why he shot him.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10129 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:14 am to
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So why did he shoot the man?


Why? Does it matter? It was wrong and the fact you are trying to put any of the blame of the dude who got shot is just idiotic at best.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:14 am to
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the officer had his gun drawn before the man even opened the door


With that knowledge, do you think it would have been smarter for victim to stay in the vehicle?

Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:15 am to
Why would he feel threatened at a fricking fender bender? I don't wait for the cop to ask me to get out if I'm at the site of a traffic accident being an idiot isn't a defense
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10129 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:15 am to
The trooper also completely neglected the truck drivers safety as well.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:15 am to
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Why? Does it matter?


It does actually. It's the most important aspect of the case.

Why did she shoot the man?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:15 am to
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you think it would have been less threatening for him to stay in the vehicle, or was this the best move for the victim?


See I think you're kinda missing the point here- the kid was never detained. This was an accident not a traffic stop.

I am not sure he was obligated to follow any commands as there was no lawful detainment.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44416 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:15 am to
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Lolno


These are cops, not members of the CIA or some secret gov't entity. Any and all dashcam video and bodycam video should be made available to the public instantly. That's the price you pay for the superpower of being able to shoot people and pets without repercussion.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Member since Jun 2016
4450 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:15 am to
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Why? Does it matter? It was wrong and the fact you are trying to put any of the blame of the dude who got shot is just idiotic at best.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70025 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:16 am to
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Does it matter?


of course it matters. If the cop shot him without cause he would be a fricking psycho...if he made a mistake he is just a bad cop that shouldn't have a weapon.
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