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re: AI & robots will replace all jobs?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:24 am to ronricks
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:24 am to ronricks
A lot of that level of replacement is already being baked in. Not to say it isn't a real concern, but it won't be a flipped switch that sends millions into unemployment. People will and already are adapting by gaining new skills and entering new or tangential fields.
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:28 am to ronricks
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It results in a shite ton of educated people being out of work. It absolutely is coming.
You keep saying this with no real objective data to back it up other than “trust me bro”
I’m an actual practitioner in a space your parroting as being minimized or eliminated in the next decade and I’ve used “AI” tailored to my industry. It can’t do something I’d expect an intern to do, and something I KNOW the answer to.
That doesn’t mean it can’t or won’t get better. But as of now, it’s total dogshit and pretty much useless
Edit: I’ve been trying to find a suitable solution for OCR and machine learning for a better part of a decade. Finally this year, we seemed to have found something that actually works pretty well.
And that’s just reading text, it’s not taking my jerb by 2030
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:31 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You keep saying this with no real objective data to back it up other than “trust me bro”
^ This needs to go on a billboard in Palo Alto. Welcome to the “tech” industry and the world of smooth-brained day-traders lol
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:36 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I’m an actual practitioner in a space your parroting as being minimized or eliminated
Mingo - I am too. The difference is I'm not sticking my head in the sand. I do think aggressively minimized is a better term than eliminated as there will need to be at least one person there to steer the ship but everything discussed in this thread (AI, Automation, Robotics) is going to result in a lot of folks out of work. It's already happened in manufacturing jobs next up will be white collar corporate workers. We can argue about how soon that will be but it is coming and if you think companies aren't going to take advantage of being able to cut 30% to 50% of their workforce and no longer have to pay things like health insurance and other benefits you are nuts. It is going to save billions which is all corporate America cares about.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:37 am to Donkus
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Pretty good. The roads were clear, parks were clean, finally was able to take an alcoholic beverage home from the to-go bar. It wasn't doom and gloom for everybody. Essential workers like me had a great time in 2020.
Well yeah, it's always fun at first.
How has that impacted now? Roads still clear? Parks still clean?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:37 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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AI is nothing more than an aggregator of data at this point with no ability to synthesize whether that underlying data is bullshite or not
and it can only learn from what is available to learn from. So code bases that are free and mostly uploaded by students are readily available for coding using AI, but code bases in private companies done by people with 25 years of experience are not one of the things AI can use to instantly code something. Elon may want to get his hands on those things but until that day, AI is only as good as the free stuff it can emulate. Again, that may change but that is reality.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:41 am to ronricks
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The difference is I'm not sticking my head in the sand
Neither am I. I just don’t see anything that can even replace an intern yet, much less me in 5 years as you stated.
Will it happen eventually? Maybe, but you’re just guessing, but you’re presenting it as authority
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:00 am to hawgfaninc
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:29 am to northshorebamaman
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None of this works without UBI, which honestly sounds pretty fricking good, but then what?
UBI without something occupying the recipients time will be an unmitigated disaster. COVID was a pretty good indication of what happens when you just hand people money and they have free time...they take to drinking and all manner of ill shite. We basically have a form of UBI now we just won't admit it because it is a slippery slope some claim but as it evolves we will have to address what the recipient is going to be doing when they ain't asleep because right now they will get up all sorts of mischief...most of us would do the same if it weren't for needing a job.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:38 am to AUCom96
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Take a look at your nearest housing project or subsidized apartment complex to see how well that "universal income" will work out for you.
This is a valid point and one that will have to be addressed. People with free time and expendable income will get up to all manner of ill shite. Men in particular are designed at the factory to do physical labor....sitting at a desk staring at a monitor is not what a man was designed to do. Women are also designed to do physical labor and logistical tasks.
Imagine the amount of food that most people consume while on vacation or even on a weekend compared to that which they consume during the work week, if they are gainfully employed. Food production is about maxed out now....add billions of folks around the world on what amounts to a long weekend that lasts a lifetime and their consumption of EVERYTHING is going to increase exponentially.
People with time on their hands, with or without money, also procreate at an incredible pace....its fun and cheap to frick. Jobs prevent a lot of fricking. When fewer people are gainfully employed but their nut is being met they will procreate...its actually the only reason we exist at all just like all living things. Population increases will increase consumption of everything. Thats going to be a problem....
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:40 am to NIH
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lol
2020 was an experiment on UBI and people being at home. How did that go?
Folks got up to all manner of ill shite....and it was only a year or so of it LOL....even those among us who did not get up to some sort of foolishness were getting pretty damned squirrely toward the end....in fact we ain't near back to normal yet.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:43 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
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Exactly. It’s like moving from an agrarian society to the Industrial Revolution. AI could eventually free people from having to trade most of their time just to survive, giving future generations the chance to focus on creativity, relationships, and real purpose.
It might take 500 to 1,000 years to get there, and it would require a complete rethink of how economies work. Maybe something like universal basic income or a system we can’t yet imagine. But the idea of humanity completely stepping off the rat race and living life on its own terms is an inspiring thought.
There is no need for most people to work onsite 40 hours a week now....most people actually work about 3-4 hours a day, the rest of the time they are socializing and sitting in meaningless meetings and planning retirement parties and what not....
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:17 pm to AUCom96
No it doesn’t. The need for the same human rises someplace else.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:21 pm to hawgfaninc
existing TD thread: Elon Musk validates USDebtClock - predicts universal high income
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
https://www.usdebtclock.org/book/The-New-Money-Revolution.pdf
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One of the most interesting predictions on US Debt Clock is the new state credit unions. Ie not for state employees but all state citizens with 1%-3% interest rates on all credit cards, auto loans, and mortgages.
This would eliminate most private bank competition which seems anti-capitalist but would end usery rates set by the private central banks - end the fed - and would fund local governments in lieu of property taxes and income taxes.
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:22 pm to hawgfaninc
That's what they said about computers.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:07 pm to NIH
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2020 was an experiment on UBI and people being at home. How did that go?
2020 created a situation with too many dollars chasing too few things. With AI, the robots will make the things for the UBI to chase.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:37 pm to BlackAdam
That sounded better in your head
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:53 pm to hawgfaninc
This all ignores the concept of scarcity. The resources needed to build, maintain, and power a 100% automatic labor force would be unsustainable.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:02 pm to bluedragon
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No it doesn’t. The need for the same human rises someplace else.
And how so? Save me the bullshite about "someone has to write the prompts". When you replace 30 jobs with 2, eventually that adds up. Where is the "someplace else" and what are the acceptable losses to you?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:11 pm to forkedintheroad
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How has that impacted now? Roads still clear? Parks still clean?
Are people still mostly working from home, schools completely virtual, and a weird virus rolling through? No, of course not. Also no one is getting UBI or PPP or anything else like 2020. I'm struggling to see your point on what any of this has to do with now in 2025.
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