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re: Ahmaud Arbery Killers Denied Bail

Posted on 11/14/20 at 10:53 am to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 10:53 am to
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That doesn't pass muster when one is a former law enforcement officer.


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That they didn't witness the actual incident that triggered them chasing him, they were called by the neighbor.


I think you mentioned this in an earlier post, but if the police department told people in the area to call the retired police if they see a trespasser, would that violate any laws? It seems like the department should hold some responsibility if they approved of the retired policeman to handle specific complaints.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57218 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:03 am to
Illegal actions on the part of the two maroons who killed Arbery?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:03 am to
That’s a good question. I don’t know if there’s a law for it but I’d imagine deferring your job to a civilian could be some kind of dereliction of duty. But I don’t know.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18902 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:05 am to
I am confused here. We just went through an entire summer of riots and Progressives screaming there should be no cash bail and no pre-conviction detention. Yet those same people are applauding these guys not getting bail. Which is it?

I don’t care if they are guilty as hell or not, you should only be detained pre-trial if you are a flight risk, danger to the community or at risk to reoffend. Those are supposed to be the standards. Not if you are a racist or not. I don’t get all the evidence of his texts being presented at the hearing.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10409 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:06 am to
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Why lie under oath in an obvious way? It would have been better for him to admit he’d used racial slurs in the past than do this.

After this, everybody in the courtroom knew he’d lie under oath, so anything he said in his defense was unreliable.
Racist dumbasses typically aren't known for their brilliant strategery.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23182 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:06 am to
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That they didn't witness the actual incident that triggered them chasing him, they were called by the neighbor.


You may be right , but the law is t witness, it’s immediate knowledge.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10565 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:07 am to
Anybody establish Mamou was out looking for crap to steal? What’s his record? Probably petty crime.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35317 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:08 am to
Errrwhere stillmad af these baws are going to jail
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:09 am to
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Which case is this again?


The one they were first trying to use to start the race riots and, when it didn’t catch on, they found the George Floyd incident soon thereafter.
This post was edited on 11/14/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10565 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:10 am to
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They also acknowledge the legal troubles that cropped up after high school — five years of probation for carrying a gun onto the high school campus in 2013, a year after graduation, and shoplifting from a Walmart store in 2017, a charge that extended that probation up until the time of his death.


He was a good boy
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10409 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:10 am to
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I don’t care if they are guilty as hell or not, you should only be detained pre-trial if you are a flight risk, danger to the community or at risk to reoffend. Those are supposed to be the standards. Not if you are a racist or not. I don’t get all the evidence of his texts being presented at the hearing.

Well, for one thing being "guilty as hell" is something judges are allowed to consider when setting bail. There is literally video of their crime. That everyone has seen.

For another, someone who lies about making blatantly racist comments, then shoots someone based on their race, might be a risk to reoffend.
This post was edited on 11/14/20 at 11:25 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
99022 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:17 am to
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I don’t care if they are guilty as hell or not, you should only be detained pre-trial if you are a flight risk, danger to the community or at risk to reoffend. Those are supposed to be the standards. Not if you are a racist or not. I don’t get all the evidence of his texts being presented at the hearing.


I would consider them a danger to their community at this point. Especially the father, who thinks he still have the "privilege" of a law enforcement officer and can "police" the community as he sees fit.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99022 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:19 am to
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He was a good boy


I really don't care if he was a piece of shite. If he wasn't committing an offense at the time that warranted their action, then his record doesn't matter. Nor should it.

We have laws for a reason. And we are afforded rights, even as criminals, under the law in particular when it comes to due process. We start taking that away from the lowest common denominator and it quickly becomes a slippery slope for the rest of us. So his previous record is irrelevant.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:20 am to
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I don’t care if they are guilty as hell or not, you should only be detained pre-trial if you are a flight risk, danger to the community or at risk to reoffend. Those are supposed to be the standards. Not if you are a racist or not. I don’t get all the evidence of his texts being presented at the hearing.

Imagine thinking these guys are 100% not a risk to reoffend.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:22 am to
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If Arbery was white do you think things would have gone the exact same way as they did?

I mean given how paranoid some the south Georgia hicks are it's certainly possible
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15803 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:24 am to
Yes
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99022 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:28 am to
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Errrwhere stillmad af these baws are going to jail


Didn't Pirate King delete all of his posts too from those threads?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35317 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:38 am to
Yea he would post some bullshite, get called out and then immediately delete like a bitch. Happened like 4 times
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145153 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:41 am to
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Which case is this again?
the dudes who executed a jogger
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83558 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:42 am to
Pirate King and HogBalls tried to argue that Arbery was guilty of assault

At least Pesticide was went all in and said that he deserved to get shot for going into a white neighborhood
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