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Agree or Disagree: ISIS recruiting on college campuses protected by free speech
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:05 pm
Simple enough. Should this be allowed?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:06 pm to AnonymousTiger
the hardest part is defining what "ISIS" is, exactly
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:07 pm to AnonymousTiger
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Should this be allowed?
Of course.
Let us know exactly who they are.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:07 pm to AnonymousTiger
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:07 pm to AnonymousTiger
do members of ISIS wear badges? have cards?
how will you know if they are "ISIS"?
how will you know if they are "ISIS"?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:08 pm to AnonymousTiger
Ummm, treason isn't protected by free speech 
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:09 pm to Salmon
I don't know; suppose they openly say they are recruiting for ISIS. Or standing in Free Speech Alley handing out pro-ISIS propaganda.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:09 pm to AnonymousTiger
Recruiting for treason? No.
Your rights end when you infringe on someone else's rights. ISIS infringes on humanity's right... to live.
Your rights end when you infringe on someone else's rights. ISIS infringes on humanity's right... to live.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:09 pm to AnonymousTiger
Disagree.
The group has professed their desire to commit acts of war against the US and other Western nations.
That's not the same thing as hate groups in my opinion which are and should be protected.
The group has professed their desire to commit acts of war against the US and other Western nations.
That's not the same thing as hate groups in my opinion which are and should be protected.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:10 pm to AnonymousTiger
Where is this happening ?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:11 pm to AnonymousTiger
Yes, you should absolutely be able to recruit people to kill U.S. soldiers on U.S. soil. Why wouldn't someone argue against that and the hundreds of other issues there is with it?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:11 pm to AnonymousTiger
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Or standing in Free Speech Alley handing out pro-ISIS propaganda.
pro ISIS? or pro Muslim?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:11 pm to Walt OReilly
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Where is this happening ?
Tennessee, possibly. Republican lawmaker says during debate on campus free speech bill that even ISIS should be allowed to recruit on campus.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:12 pm to AnonymousTiger
Disagree. Once you become part of a known enemy association to the US, you forfeit all Constitutional rights. Treason I believe is the word.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:12 pm to AnonymousTiger
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Tennessee, possibly. Republican lawmaker says during debate on campus free speech bill that even ISIS should be allowed to recruit on campus.
That is f'king absurd. This guy needs to be fired.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:13 pm to Salmon
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pro ISIS? or pro Muslim?
Is there a difference?
ETA: Only kidding before I get obliterated.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:13 pm to m2pro
Article on what lawmaker said
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Rep. Martin Daniel, R-Knoxville, was speaking on behalf of a bill centered around free speech.
Daniel said recent school policies are unfair and are diminishing students' rights to free speech on college campuses. Another lawmaker asked if ISIS recruiters should be included in that protection.
"Should someone be able to stand in the marketplace or town square at the University of Tennessee, University of Memphis, Murfreesboro, Cookeville, Austin Peay and recruit for ISIS?" asked Rep. John DeBerry Jr., D-Memphis.
"Yes," Daniel replied, "So long as it doesn't disrupt the proceedings on that campus. Yes, sir. They can recruit people for any other organization, too, or any other cause. I think it's just part of being exposed to differing viewpoints."
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:14 pm to AnonymousTiger
Ummmm. No. It is already illegal. ISIS has clearly stated in unequivocal fashion that their intent is to overthrow the U.S. Government and install Sharia Law and a Theocracy.
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:17 pm to jbgleason
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Ummmm. No. It is already illegal. ISIS has clearly stated in unequivocal fashion that their intent is to overthrow the U.S. Government and install Sharia Law and a Theocracy.
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