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re: AE Flood zone?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:15 am to Broke
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:15 am to Broke
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Would you buy a home in a an AE flood zone that flooded in 2016?
me. no.
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How big of a risk is this and what would the chances be that it floods again?
risk is rates could always change and get expensive and number of floods on records changes premiums.
it will flood again, just a matter of when.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:16 am to Broke
I would never buy a house that flooded in 2016 or build a house not elevated enough to have avoided that 2016 flood.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:03 pm to kingbob
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I would never buy a house that flooded in 2016 or build a house not elevated enough to have avoided that 2016 flood.
I honestly believe that anyone that flooded feels this way, I know I do. But the people that didn't are the ones that are buying these houses because they didn't go through a flood and they have no idea the turmoil involved. Having said that, I am thankful I was able to sell mine so quickly and at a premium but I always knew in the back of my mind that if or when it happened again, I would be stuck.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:17 pm to Broke
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Broke
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Would you buy a home in a an AE flood zone that flooded in 2016? How big of a risk is this and what would the chances be that it floods again?
Answer: It depends.
For starters, you need to ask the owner-or your/the seller's realtor-for a copy of the most recent Elevation Certificate. They had to have one done when the home was built so don't let them hem and haw you about not having one. They may not be able to find it, but they more than likely got one done.
Your Parish Permit Office can also probably help you pull a historical EC that was on file or pulled when the structure was built.
There's a difference in what your ground elevation is and the structure of your home's elevation is. Many homes that are Slab-on-Grade (SOG) have had a dirt pad built up to allow for the slab to be poured. That slab is several inches tall. Then fill is brought in to slope the slab based on either preference or local applicable ordinance.
The elevation of the slab and the, "Lowest Adjacent Grade," (or LAG) of the ground around the slab (as well as any utilities servicing your structure like the HVAC, etc) are going to be what determines whether or not the structure itself is in fact in an AE Flood Zone.
The entire area may be on a normal Flood Map considered in an AE Flood Zone. But due to fill dirt and slab elevation and LAG, the structure may actually have been LOMA'd (Letter of Map Amendment) or LOMAR-F'd out of the flood zone entirely when they shot the elevation and determined it is now above the AE Flood Zone.
So in summation, a lot of it has to do with your foundation type, the elevation via fill and slab and lowest adjacent grade, etc.
Having said that...There are a lot of folks posting here who are totally uninformed. When you ask what the risk is for a structure that flooded in 2016 flooding again, it's complete conjecture to answer that question accurately based on the information given.
Thousands of homes flooded in 2016 that are legitimately in Flood Zone X, which should theoretically only be susceptible to an event on par with the severity of a, "500-year flood," per NFIP & FEMA standards. This is because the 2016 Flood was an event the severity of which was so intense and atypical we don't have a means or method of accurately comparing it to a 10-year, 25-year or 50-year storm event that many local ordinances and risk-rating policies are based on.
It was a Biblical Flood. One that no amount of mitigation, elevations and floodplain management could have avoided for many people. Some may have benefited and avoided its impacts, but for most, there's simply not a way to avoid a Biblical flood like that.
But for those that say, "We didn't flood in 2016, we're good," You're confused. If the storm that created the event in 2016 would've come through our area 5-10 miles North or 5-10 miles more Southerly, or became stationary 5-10 miles more Westerly or Easterly than it did, then the flooding and the impacted areas would have been much, much different. Simply because there is different topography and drainage in our area based on your location.
Trying to figure out whether a property is floodprone based on 2016 is not possible.
Bottom line: Go get an Elevation Certificate (EC) pulled on the property if the homeowner doesn't have one and you can't get one from the Parish Permit or Floodplain Administrator's Office.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:56 pm to DarkDrifter
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And before the naysayers tout "if I buy a X property why would I need it??"
We live in an X zone and got 10 inches in 2016. We didn't have flood insurance before the flood because not only were we not in a flood-prone area, our area had not flooded in the entire history of EBR. Needless to say, we have it now.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:01 pm to BitBuster
I lived in a flood zone X. After Gustave, FEMA rezoned the area. My flood insurance premiums went from 300 a year to 3400 per year and we never had flood issues before nor since. Mortgage companies require flood insurance. When selling the home even though no flooding issues, the AE classification made buyers leery.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:02 pm to jimbeam
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I’d be more worried about resale than actually flooding myself. You’re gonna limit your buyer pool.
good point I was going to make
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pool
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:23 pm to Broke
My house in BR is the last house in AE flood area. My BFE is .1 above what insurance says I need to get the lower insurance rate.
I went to three agents they said it is best to pay the higher rate just Incase I do flood. This way they cannot use that as a reason to reject my claim.
They have my house in AE and my front and side yard are outside AE.
Did not flood in 2016.
Now my flood insurance is twice as much as someone who lives in a non AE area.
When I built my house on a Toledo Bend I made sure I built outside an AE area to avoid higher flood insurance rates.
I went to three agents they said it is best to pay the higher rate just Incase I do flood. This way they cannot use that as a reason to reject my claim.
They have my house in AE and my front and side yard are outside AE.
Did not flood in 2016.
Now my flood insurance is twice as much as someone who lives in a non AE area.
When I built my house on a Toledo Bend I made sure I built outside an AE area to avoid higher flood insurance rates.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:25 pm
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