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Advice for if you ever have to shoot someone in self defense

Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted by texn
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:53 pm
Over the years, I have taken several firearm training classes from various individuals who were pretty bad arse (some of whom trained SWAT and other special ops LEOs). Here are some tidbits of advice that I received from them that I thought might be helpful if you ever find yourself in that situation:

1. After the shooting and assuming that all threats are neutralized, if it is safe to do so, remove the magazine from the weapon, clear the chamber and set the weapon down. You don't want to have the weapon in your hand when the police roll up, because they won't know if you are a threat and they might end up drawing on you otherwise.

2. Show emotional distress that you had to shoot the guy. Pretend that you just had to put Ol' Yeller down if you have to. Go say the simple statement "I didn't want to have to shoot him but he left me no choice" over and over. A cop testifying that you showed remorse over the shooting goes a long way in court.

3. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ELSE without a lawyer present. Cop starts questioning you, say you aren't comfortable saying any more without a lawyer present. Cop unions advise their cop members to do this because at the scene, with the adrenaline still pumping, you might remember the facts differently than you would have you have had a chance to review the situation with your lawyer and had a chance to calm down.

4. If you can, before shooting the guy, scream as loud as you can "Get away from me!!! Stay away or I will shoot!!! That's not your purse!!!" Witnesses may not be able to recall accurately who did what, but them testifying that they heard you shout this goes a long way towards a successful self-defense defense. (This is the same reason why cops always shout "Stop resisting!!!" when they are gang-beating a suspect).

5. You can't talk your way out of the ride downtown. You are going to be arrested, even if you were 100% right. Talking at the scene is only going to hurt your case.

Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:55 pm to
Also have an escape plan if you think you may end up convicted.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Advice for if you ever have to shoot someone in self defense


Shoot them in the knees.


/thread
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

texn


Are you the Texas Hammer?
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:56 pm to
...and revolvers don’t leave shell casings behind.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

This is the same reason why cops always shout "Stop resisting!!!" when they are gang-beating a suspect.


Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

This is the same reason why cops always shout "Stop resisting!!!" when they are gang-beating a suspect).
most videos I see they say that because the perp is resisting.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:59 pm to
Dont shoot them in a place run by leftists
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ELSE without a lawyer present. Cop starts questioning you, say you aren't comfortable saying any more without a lawyer present. Cop unions advise their cop members to do this because at the scene, with the adrenaline still pumping, you might remember the facts differently than you would have you have had a chance to review the situation with your lawyer and had a chance to calm down.



Great advice. Most Officers involved in on the job shootings aren't interviewed until 48 hrs after the shooting.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:01 pm to
I’m beginning to think we need to wear body cams in public to protect ourselves
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:01 pm to
Bad-arse! I hope I get to use these tips someday
Posted by Slagathor
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:03 pm to
6. Take advice from some rando on TD
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

That's not your purse!!!


Okay, Bobby Hill.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Take advice from some rando on TD


It's gotten me this far
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:04 pm to
tip 1. don't leave any witnesses

tip 2. don't leave any evidence

tip 3. don't talk about it, ever

Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2423 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

...and revolvers don’t leave shell casings behind.


Damn, I never thought about that before. Huh.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:07 pm to
It's almost shut the frick up Friday

Don't say a damn thing other than you feared for your safety/life and ask for your lawyer
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

tip 1. don't leave any witnesses
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

After the shooting and assuming that all threats are neutralized, if it is safe to do so, remove the magazine from the weapon, clear the chamber and set the weapon down. You don't want to have the weapon in your hand when the police roll up, because they won't know if you are a threat and they might end up drawing on you otherwise.
I'm going to disappear first chance I get

quote:

Go say the simple statement "I didn't want to have to shoot him but he left me no choice" over and over. A cop testifying that you showed remorse over the shooting goes a long way in court.

violates the most important rule: never talk to cops.
quote:

Talking at the scene is only going to hurt your case.

yet your second statement is talking at the scene
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:11 pm to
You forgot rule #1:

If you shoot them, you better kill them. A dead person cannot make up firsthand lies about what went down.
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