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re: Adopting Rescues vs Buying from a Breeder
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:13 pm to CaptainPanic
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:13 pm to CaptainPanic
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You can adopt a puppy that will satisfy that. As long as they are young enough, you can still train them or send them to whatever school you need.
I cannot adopt a random dog from the shelter that will have the herding instincts of a Border Collie, nor can I adopt one that will have the duck retrieval abilities of a retriever.
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:13 pm to CaptainPanic
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What do you mean by "go after"? What type of legal act could you perform that would prevent irresponsible pet owners to stop from doing this?
You could direct blowhardy posts like this at them rather than the people who buy dogs instead of adopting mystery mutts.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:14 pm to CaptainPanic
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Using a particular breed for a purpose, such as hunting, herding, flock protection, etc.,
Quote:You can adopt a puppy that will satisfy that. As long as they are young enough, you can still train them or send them to whatever school you need.
Not exactly... You're never going to train a mutt to perform like a dog bred for that particular purpose.. Hunt, herd, etc...
Using a particular breed for a purpose, such as hunting, herding, flock protection, etc.,
Quote:You can adopt a puppy that will satisfy that. As long as they are young enough, you can still train them or send them to whatever school you need.
Not exactly... You're never going to train a mutt to perform like a dog bred for that particular purpose.. Hunt, herd, etc...
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:14 pm to eScott
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Self-righteous people who preach against responsible breading.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:14 pm to CaptainPanic
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You can adopt a puppy that will satisfy that. As long as they are young enough, you can still train them or send them to whatever school you need.
You can't change the genetics. There is a reason people pay big bucks for the blood line.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:15 pm to CaptainPanic
There is a high number of pure breeds that do end up abandoned and are available through rescue organizations.
Most dogs can be trained to do what you want, regardless of their breed.
Further, I have found that the friendliest dogs are the least pure breed.
But, you'll always have that large segment that likes to show off the dog, as if it's a possession, rather than just allowing it to be a companion.
Most dogs can be trained to do what you want, regardless of their breed.
Further, I have found that the friendliest dogs are the least pure breed.
But, you'll always have that large segment that likes to show off the dog, as if it's a possession, rather than just allowing it to be a companion.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:16 pm to East Coast Band
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Further, I have found that the friendliest dogs are the least pure breed.
Anecdote as evidence... Nice.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:16 pm to CaptainPanic
Many rescue organizations generate income by charging adoption fees. They get their inventory from puppy mills. The cycle continues.
ETA: Every rescued King Charles cavalier in NYC has the same exact “used as a breeder” story.
ETA: Every rescued King Charles cavalier in NYC has the same exact “used as a breeder” story.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:16 pm to East Coast Band
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Most dogs can be trained to do what you want, regardless of their breed.
Nope.
Working dogs who have been bred for a particular purpose are going to be much, much better at their intended role than anything else.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:16 pm to CaptainPanic
I no problem with either side of the fence. Shelter dogs and cats make fine pets, but if there is something specific you are looking for then go breeder. That being said you should take the responsibility to make sure your breeder is legit and doing a fine job. There are way too many backyard breeders and puppy mills.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:17 pm to HempHead
quote:Why would you not be able to adopt one of the most common breeds of dogs?
nor can I adopt one that will have the duck retrieval abilities of a retriever.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:18 pm to JetsetNuggs
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Adopted animals may have some pit in them.
Can't take that chance, baw
If there is a specific breed you have in mind there is probably a rescue, Hokie’s Hounds is a local rescue for hound dogs
While there is a chance it will not be pure bred you probably won’t get a pit beagle
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:19 pm to HempHead
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I cannot adopt a random dog from the shelter that will have the herding instincts of a Border Collie, nor can I adopt one that will have the duck retrieval abilities of a retriever.
Back before they had adoption fees, you could go get the whole pound and turn them loose during deer dog season...if they ran deer, keep them, if they didn't just leave them in the woods to get picked up by the pound.
Times have changed.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:19 pm to CaptainPanic
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Why would you not be able to adopt one of the most common breeds of dogs?
Fair enough. That doesn't extend to much other hunting/working dogs.
Maybe I like to field hunt deer, or go quail hunting. Either one of those require a pretty specific range of breeds.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:19 pm to caro81
quote:Questionnaires... an election process... proof of limited litters... the breeder actually choosing to keep one... selection taking place not earlier than 8 weeks... proof of 5 certified generations minimum... and possibly even the breeder making the decision beyond male/female once they get to know the customer well enough.
you should take the responsibility to make sure your breeder is legit and doing a fine job. There are way too many backyard breeders and puppy mills.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:20 pm to HempHead
I'm not saying a Chihuahua mix can be used for bird dog.
I'm pointing out that you can find a dog, a rescue dog, to serve your purpose of hunting, or whatever you want.
You can elect to take the way of just getting a particular breed that you assume will work, but there are the dogs available that will indeed do what you want
I'm pointing out that you can find a dog, a rescue dog, to serve your purpose of hunting, or whatever you want.
You can elect to take the way of just getting a particular breed that you assume will work, but there are the dogs available that will indeed do what you want
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:23 pm to pjab
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Many rescue organizations generate income by charging adoption fees. They get their inventory from puppy mills. The cycle continues.
Most legit rescues are barely covering expenses & are in debt to the vet that lets them keep a running balance
Adoption fees typically covers shots & spaying as well as treatment for any existing conditions
Several local rescues (BR) get their inventory from kill shelters
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:23 pm to pjab
quote:Using a hasty generalization still doesn't make this applicable to 98% of rescue groups. There's nothing wrong with adoption fees.
Many rescue organizations generate income by charging adoption fees. They get their inventory from puppy mills. The cycle continues.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:30 pm to CaptainPanic
Wash Post - Dog Rescue
I imagine this occurs mostly through breed specific rescue groups. There are not enough breed specific dogs in an area to support an organization.
With the King Charles, the “rescues” are very quality animals with good attitudes. I know people have tough situations that force them to surrender a dog, but there is no way there are enough poor old ladies giving up their 1-2yr old dogs to support the organization.
I imagine this occurs mostly through breed specific rescue groups. There are not enough breed specific dogs in an area to support an organization.
With the King Charles, the “rescues” are very quality animals with good attitudes. I know people have tough situations that force them to surrender a dog, but there is no way there are enough poor old ladies giving up their 1-2yr old dogs to support the organization.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:40 pm to CaptainPanic
I’ve done both. Put last three were rescues. They are wonderful but they can come with issues so extra patience is required. It’s a very gratifying experience.
Our last two rescues died last year. This time we’ll purchase from a breeder as this is almost certainly our last dog and I want a puppy again.
Our last two rescues died last year. This time we’ll purchase from a breeder as this is almost certainly our last dog and I want a puppy again.
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