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re: Adding a TV Mount to Brick Wall--How to Properly Support?

Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:05 pm to
Inommmm, it must be put in simple terms.

Ramrod, if you have fallen off your bar stool again and are lying flat on the bar floor again, and a woman with a stiletto heel steps on the back of your hand, it will most likely break a bone. However, if she were wearing tennis shoes, the stress on the bone in the back of your hand will be dispersed to the width of the tennis shoe.

This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:09 pm to
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BTW contrary to what LCA says and the OT thinks, i do something other than patrol the highway.


How precious of you to call Walking The Concourse of a mall, "patrol the highway".
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:09 pm to
the stress wouldnt be dispersed, the load was dispersed. gosh to i have to explain everything to you?

Oh and my hand would still break, Im assuming it would be a heavy set woman stepping on my hand. and she would probably jump up and down on it.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:11 pm to
have you seen the malls lately, It is like im back in Afghanistan. It is a war zone.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:12 pm to
There is stress on the bone and it is lessened and by lessened I mean dispersed. And if it was a heavyset woman it was probably someone you had been with and yes she would jump up and down. You probably arrested her for stealing a size 16 sundress
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:13 pm to
You two need to get a room.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:15 pm to
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The bricks are stacked on top of each other and joined by mortar. They are attached to nothing else.


True, but over the entire wall, that is a lot of both brick and mortar. Plus you have the hearth connected and what looks like some back space (from the fireplace and the wood storage helping to form an upside down T. Just by its shear weight and wide base, the wall is more than capable of supporting a TV. Like I said before, if there is a concern that the TV is going to bring down the wall, we got bigger issues that need to be addressed first!

If the brick or more so the mortar and mortar bond to the brick is sound, it would take a lot more than that TV to tear out even a single wythe section of the wall.

The bricks are probably three hole, and the mortar not only bonds them together but also keys them together via those holes.

Actually, how thick is the wall? Is it one brick or more thick where you are mounting the TV?



Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:16 pm to
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You two need to get a room.




Will it have a TV mounted on the wall?

Okay I think we have this problem solved, I got to get back to work. Building stuff. Like I have been doing for close to 30 years.
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:18 pm to
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quote:

You two need to get a room.




Will it have a TV mounted on the wall?


Not if I have anything to do with it.
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Actually, how thick is the wall? Is it one brick or more thick where you are mounting the TV?


One brick
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:19 pm to
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if I have anything to do with it.


No shite. Get to it, Man!

Enjoyed the fun, guys. Good luck and see you soon.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:20 pm to
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I got to get back to work. Building stuff. Like I have been doing for close to 30 years.
and ill get back to work bossing your kind around.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:22 pm to
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see you soon.


Ok, I have to finally ask . . . what the hell are you talkin about?
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:25 pm to
He has told me for almost 10 years now he was coming to BR one weekend and we were going to have a beer.

I think it is the Alzheimers.
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:27 pm to
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He has told me for almost 10 years now he was coming to BR one weekend and we were going to have a beer.

I think it is the Alzheimers.


Ok. . .
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:31 pm to
What is the weight of the TV? What is the weight and specs on the mount? You're right to have concern with a full motion mount. Most posters in the thread don't seem to comprehend what that is. Nor do they seem to understand that when you extend the TV out from the wall it exerts much greater force (downward) on the supporting wall than a standard flush or tilt mount.

You might want to post this thread on the Tech Board (which is where it should be anyway). Tigerwise and a couple of other integrators (like me) might have some input for you. Specs for the TV and mount will help.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:36 pm to
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You might want to post this thread on the Tech Board (which is where it should be anyway). Tigerwise and a couple of other integrators (like me) might have some input for you.


I nearly posted this thread on the Tech Board, but the activity on that board is much much less than the O-T.

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What is the weight of the TV? What is the weight and specs on the mount?


I'm considering going to a 65" which would be around 60 lbs. The mount is a Sanus VLF628. I can't find what the mount weighs, but the shipping weight is 54 lbs. It supports a maximum of 150 lbs, and extends to a maximum of 28" from the wall.

quote:

You're right to have concern with a full motion mount. Most posters in the thread don't seem to comprehend what that is. Nor do they seem to understand that when you extend the TV out from the wall it exerts much greater force (downward) on the supporting wall than a standard flush or tilt mount.


Exactly!
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:42 pm to
To be perfectly safe I'd put a frame behind that wall that anchors to the floor if you have access. Literally a framed floor plate, top plate and studs to anchor in. That way you can go through the existing brick to attach to the frame but the brick wouldn't bear any of the weight.

That's a lot of sheer weight to support when the mount is fully extended.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:44 pm to
You think something like I have drawn here will work? I'll space the frame to match the size of the mount plate so I'm going through the 2x4 frame with the bolts.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:47 pm to
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or do they seem to understand that when you extend the TV out from the wall it exerts much greater force (downward) on the supporting wall than a standard flush or tilt mount.

well you are actually wrong here.

The downward force is always the same no matter where the tv is, but it does induce a moment when it extends out.

I have 2 tvs on full articulation mounts lag screwed into 2 studs each. i have hung on them and they are solid. no TV is bringing the mount out or the framed wall down.

now think if it like this. do you think you could kick a brick wall down or a few studs down.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:52 pm
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