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Adderall as a performance-enhancing drug

Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:18 pm
For years now organized athletics, with the exception of a few federations and "fringe" sports (e.g. bodybuilding, powerlifting, various MMA organizations, etc.), have condemned performance-enhancing drugs.

While anabolic steroids seem to be the primary drug vilified by the media and the general population, HGH and blood doping have proven to be just as potent performance-enhancers depending on the specific sport. Even diuretics occupy a spot on the NFL's "Banned Substance List".

2014 NFL Banned Substance List

One of my favorite documentaries, filmed by former national champion powerlifter Chris Bell (now known as the older brother of the world-renowned powerflifter Mark "Smelly" Bell), discusses at length both the pros and cons of steroid use as it pertains to combating illness or furthering athletic performance. Bell even discusses irregular forms of "cheating" and "performance-enhancing" not deemed as illegal, such as Tiger Woods receiving LASIK eye surgery (which subsequently increased his depth perception by providing him with better than 20/20 vision) and the utilization of altitude chambers for endurance athletes.

Bigger, Stronger, Faster

The reason why I bring all of this up is due in part to the thread related to drug testing occurring among Alabama fraternities and also my eventual reaction in the wake of Tyrann Mathieu's dismissal from the LSU football program several years ago.

I find it odd that student-athletes are subject to random drug testing while the rest of students are not. Some might argue that the reason pertains to the athletes' financial benefits, but then how do you account for students on academic scholarship? It seems to me that any university student who receives financial aid, particularly through their respective university or via state funding, should be subject to similar drug screenings and punished accordingly.

Why should student-athletes be subject to a more rigorous discipline code? Because they are public figures? You could argue that any university student is a direct representative of the university at large and therefore should be held to the same standard.

More importantly, if the issue pertains more to eliminating the use of performance-enhancing drugs among student-athletes in order to prevent them from gaining a competitive edge (see Will Grier at Florida), then why should students not face similar judgment or policing when it comes to academic fraud via stimulant usage?

When it comes to drug use, I admittedly have a very liberal view despite never having consumed any drug other than an occasional glass of wine (I drank a decent amount during my sophomore year but then I decided that I didn't like how alcohol impacted me). However, stimulants are a different classification from drugs used to achieve a high or a feeling of satisfaction. Stimulants direclty impact brain function. I understand that caffeine operates as a mild-grade stimulant, but I am willing to bet that it's impact on brain function is a fraction of what Adderrall yields.

I have heard students praise Aderrall as some sort of miracle drug which provides them with immense focus and concentration in order to prepare for an intimidating exam or as an aid for finishing a grueling writing assignment.

Considering that many scholarships are academic-merited, it seems like students are cheating their "God-given" intellectual limitations or attempting to shortcut their apathy and poor study habits by engaging in such drug use.

Also, for those of you have attended law school or enrolled in a highly-competitive graduate program, you will note that you are graded against your peers and therefore are concerned with not only your ability to learn the material, but also your ability to surpass peers.

It is at this point that the argument of competitive advantage comes into play. One of my girlfriend's law professors recently spoke out against Adderrall usage and admonished any one who might seek out such aid. The subject of Adderrall came up in a discussion among classmates later that day and my girlfriend was somewhat ostracized for admitting to her abstinence from Adderrall. They made it seem as though she was the odd one for not attempting to partake in such shortcuts.

So I ask, how significant is Adderall in regards to academic fraud/cheating? Should all students be subject to drug-testing in order to ensure that academic integrity is maintained?


TL;DR version: Students use Adderrall to cheat. Is it bad?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:20 pm to
is studying cheating?
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:23 pm to
it's bad that it's overprescribed and used in patients that it probably shouldn't be used on... the very real and very probable dependence and misuse factor is there... i basically think these MD's are setting up a bunch of their "patients" for a lifetime of hurt due to misuse of what's being prescribed and what's out there on the street....
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:24 pm to
Better living through chemistry man.

Why would you hate on things that make us better?

Caffeine is a "performance enhancing drug"' too.
Posted by bigrob385series
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:25 pm to
it's an amphetamine..if it is percribed to you for legit medical reasons legally,then i don't think that it's cheating.
Posted by Gary Lazer Eyes
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:27 pm to
i smash pussy like crazy when i pop a addy 20mg
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:27 pm to
Whatever Saban gave his D-Line on 11/7. That there is the one you want.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Caffeine is a "performance enhancing drug"' too.


My cousin played football for Delta State and he told me they would get randomly tested by the NCAA during games. He said if you had more than the equivalent of a cup of coffee in your system you would be in serious shite. Couldn't believe it.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:29 pm to
shite, I drink coffee like water.

2 pots a day isn't uncommon
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

if it is percribed to you for legit medical reasons legally,then i don't think that it's cheating.

meh... it's easy to get it prescribed to you, even if you truly don't need it/have ADHD.... it's sometimes given for shift workers too, but they tend to use Modanafil for that nowadays...

but it's very common for mothers who have kids that are government assisted to bring their kids to the physician, tell them to act crazy and shite, and get on ADHD medicine for the sole purpose of now having a "learning disorder" and thus, more money from government assistance in lieu of a "disability"...

that IS cheating.. cheating the system, cheating the taxpayers, and possibly cheating the kid on a chance at an otherwise normal existence...
Posted by sullivanct19a
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:29 pm to
this is pandora's box that universities don't want opened.
mention andro and people want mark mcguire banned for life but ritalin and similar drugs are abused by 'honor' students and the like all the time.
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

shite, I drink coffee like water.

2 pots a day isn't uncommon


damn son... 3-5 cups is like the upper limit to the study that said coffee can help ward of certain types of cancers, but 2 pots... that's, um, yeah....
Posted by oVo
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:31 pm to
Adderall is basically meth
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:31 pm to
I say anything over 3 pots a day is just overkill.

Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:32 pm to
That's like saying bathtub gin and Hendrick's are the same thing.

Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

pandora's box that society doesn't want opened.


fify...

i mean, alcohol is one of the most dangerous substances you can overdo, yet it's legal to consume to the death of you... but marijuana, which is, as far as i know, not something you can overdose on, remains illegal in a majority of the US....

the argument for "abuse potential" is invalid when talking about the legality of certain drugs, IMO
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Adderall is basically meth

sorta...

but Desoxyn is meth... pharmaceutical grade, made by a drug company, inspected by the FDA and allowed to be prescribed, methamphetamine...
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:36 pm to
I only use Adderall in dire situations. I don't care if it's cheating.
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:37 pm to
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i smash pussy like crazy when i pop a addy 20mg


Slap 3 droplets of Peptides down the hatch and you'll do it like she's never had it before.


Addy is definitely cheating whether you're studying game film or law school textbooks.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22233 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:38 pm to
No you don't, Gayry.
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