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re: Aborting children with down syndrome, would you do it?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:11 pm to lsugrad35
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:11 pm to lsugrad35
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I'm pro life no matter what. I'm sure life is tough having a down syndrome child, but that's no excuse. And this topic makes me sad because I have a soft spot for those with down syndrome. Some of them are some of the happiest people on earth.
Just out of curiosity, do you know any down syndrome people who have a feeding tube or can't toilet themselves?
Are they happy as their diaper fills up even when they are 35 years old?
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:11 pm to lsunurse
So yeah, Nurse and Darth have made a pretty sound case for downs. As a utilitarian, I don't think I could justify a downs abortion in any case, good job guys. I mean that sincerely.
Now let's make it a little greyer. What about a zika fetus?
Now let's make it a little greyer. What about a zika fetus?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:11 pm to Sofa King Crimson
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if it makes it any better, if I got my g/f pregnant right now, we'd likely have the baby aborted
As someone who is currently struggling with infertility and may possibly never actually get pregnant...reading stuff like that this makes me frustrated, angry, and sad.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:12 pm to mahdragonz
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Yes. And some parents wish they had the option for a different choice, especially when their children reached middle age and the parents were elderly. I know a very Christian mother of a down syndrome woman who prays for her daughter to get an illness bc of the horror that is the daughter's life. Some cases are good and some are bad. The bottom line is parents get to decide what is the best choice.
WTF ever man.
You know a "Christian" mother who prays for her daughter to get an illness.
frick off. That's not a Christian mother. If true, then that is a disturbed person to pray for an illness.
And no, I would venture to say the majority of parents are very much happy with their down syndrome children. My goodness you think this is a disability? There are far worse special needs children who ae just as much as a blessing..
And no, the bottom line is if you don't want a child termination isn't the option.
Adoption, it's a wonderful thing.
It's not even a religious issue.. It's a murder issue, and it's wrong.. murdering out of what you think is an incovenience.
frick this.. and no. that woman is not a Christian. Not even in the least. So spare me the BS.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:13 pm to mailman
Yeah, I think I would.
Don't know until you're in the situation but just thinking about it now - that's such a burden to deal with the rest of your life that I wouldn't want to do it. I just think it would take a toll on every aspect of my life now.
Maybe if I had kids already, I would think differently, but I don't think so.
Don't know until you're in the situation but just thinking about it now - that's such a burden to deal with the rest of your life that I wouldn't want to do it. I just think it would take a toll on every aspect of my life now.
Maybe if I had kids already, I would think differently, but I don't think so.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:13 pm to beauchristopher
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WTF ever man.
You know a "Christian" mother who prays for her daughter to get an illness.
frick off. That's not a Christian mother. If true, then that is a disturbed person to pray for an illness.
And no, I would venture to say the majority of parents are very much happy with their down syndrome children. My goodness you think this is a disability? There are far worse special needs children who ae just as much as a blessing..
And no, the bottom line is if you don't want a child termination isn't the option.
Adoption, it's a wonderful thing.
It's not even a religious issue.. It's a murder issue, and it's wrong.. murdering out of what you think is an incovenience.
frick this.. and no. that woman is not a Christian. Not even in the least. So spare me the BS.
Well, when you spend more than 40 years taking care of an obese non-verbal child of yours, maybe your opinion will mean something.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:14 pm to Sofa King Crimson
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it makes it any better, if I got my g/f pregnant right now, we'd likely have the baby aborted no matter if it had DS or not.
Can't let something like a baby get in the way of your life, right?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:14 pm to beauchristopher
We get it, you lack the ability to wrap your mind around an anecdote that might disconfirm your deeply held religious beliefs.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:14 pm to Sofa King Crimson
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if it makes it any better, if I got my g/f pregnant right now, we'd likely have the baby aborted no matter if it had DS or not.
Damn.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:14 pm to mahdragonz
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Just out of curiosity, do you know any down syndrome people who have a feeding tube or can't toilet themselves?
Are they happy as their diaper fills up even when they are 35 years old?
just out of curiosity, do you also believe that a parent should end the life of their 35 year old with DS if they deemed them too much of a burden all of a sudden?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:14 pm to Tigerfan56
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that's such a burden to deal with the rest of your life that I wouldn't want to do it. I just think it would take a toll on every aspect of my life now.
no kidding. Life is short, pals. Make the most of it.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:15 pm to Salmon
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I'm in a weird place right now as a pro life, libertarian, atheist...
That is weird, considering the first one pretty much contradicts the next two.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:15 pm to mailman
half the people on this board wouldn't exist if the numbers in the US were similar to those of europe.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
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quote:quote:That is weird, considering the first one pretty much contradicts the next two.
I'm in a weird place right now as a pro life, libertarian, atheist...
Google those terms bro.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
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That is weird, considering the first one pretty much contradicts the next two.
not really
I believe the unborn child has the right to life
I'm not 100% against abortion, you could come up with some very rare scenarios in which I would agree with it, but generally am 100% against 2 healthy consenting adults aborting a child
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
quote:How so? This is what pisses me off about religious people. You can not believe in any God, but you still have a moral compass on what you hold as wrong and right. Many athiest are pro-life..... Now it somewhat clashes with his libertarian views, but libertarians are also split on abortion
That is weird, considering the first one pretty much contradicts the next two.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:17 pm to mailman
Not like people are lining up to adopt Down syndrome babies...
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:17 pm to lsunurse
Some of the most amazing people are those with downs.
I can't believe people are devauling life because they think it's some burden. My disabled sibling is far worse off than down syndrome and is one of the sweetest people I know. Very much has value in this world.
I can see how Eurotrash would devalue their life and murder them.. I am shocked by the amount in favor here and the pure ignorance of this thread.
I can't believe people are devauling life because they think it's some burden. My disabled sibling is far worse off than down syndrome and is one of the sweetest people I know. Very much has value in this world.
I can see how Eurotrash would devalue their life and murder them.. I am shocked by the amount in favor here and the pure ignorance of this thread.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:17 pm to LSUBoo
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That is weird, considering the first one pretty much contradicts the next two.
Not really. Pro-life doesn't have to be a public policy. It can also be just a personal choice.
Atheists can be pro-life. The belief in God isn't required to have respect for life.
Libertarianism isn't in contradiction with being pro-life.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:18 pm to mahdragonz
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Are they happy as their diaper fills up even when they are 35 years old?
The mom of one of my daughter's friends has both her elderly parents parents living with her. The dad has dementia and she has to change his diapers daily. I suppose she should do herself and the world a favor and go into his room and smother him with a pillow, right?
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