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re: A Texas ICU nurse is hospitalized with coronavirus after testing negative

Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:34 am to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132711 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:34 am to
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I did not see in the article where it is stated she works Three, 12-hour shifts.


Nurses normally work 3-4 12 hour shifts a week. That is full time
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:34 am to
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No one is denying they do.

They get more money for Medicare patients and uninsured patients. Covid treatment is far more expensive than their normal operating budgets so they've been supplemented by increasing the federal money they get.

You keep saying they're falsifying case counts to get more of that money, but you have no proof and don't even understand where the extra money is coming from to see that it's not really working that way.



You're all over the place here. What are you trying to say?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38242 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:36 am to
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ve colds and flu been eradicated? You’re sure that she has COVID despite numerous negative tests? Why?



because he/she is a sky screaming, big-government loving, nanny state desiring, Karen statist who wants the government to control every single aspect of our lives.
muh masks
muh tests
muh virus
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:37 am to
He’s saying since I can’t prove the doc’s motives for adding a covid patient who doesn’t have covid, then everything is all good and nothing is wrong with this story.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:38 am to
Because the symptoms have presented and false negatives happen?
Posted by ML Crisis
Clown world
Member since Jul 2020
195 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:41 am to
From the article:
quote:

 to understand that even though someone doesn't have symptoms, there's still no guarantee they may not have it


In other words, life is over.

Put everyone in hazmat suits, I'm sure that will rid the world of bacteria.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19320 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:41 am to
Hero
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:41 am to
Are you retarded? The post is straight forward.

They do that get extra money for every covid case. They get it for covid patients on Medicare and uninsured covid patients.

They get it because treating covid patients is much more expensive than caring for anyone else who comes into the hospital without covid.

If there was widespread fraud in this system, you'd have more than 3-4 possible examples to share instead of just using the "proof" of "well if they can game the system you don't think they are?"
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:41 am to
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Because the symptoms have presented and false negatives happen?




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the body aches, a fever and a small cough


Such unique symptoms, which can only solely be attributable to COVID. Why even bother with the test I wonder. You have a small fever and a cough. It's quite obviously COVID.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:42 am to
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Because the symptoms
Flu symptoms don't equal a 100% positive covid case.
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false negatives happen
People doing things for money happens.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72514 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:43 am to
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"I could've required intubation if I would have waited a couple days more,"


Or you could’ve been over it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:44 am to
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Flu symptoms don't equal a 100% positive covid case.


And the hospital likely didn't report this as such without a test proving it.

This article is about this nurse saying she knows it was covid, not the hospital saying she had it.

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People doing things for money happens.


That isn't proof. Good God, man, I know you are smarter than this.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 8:45 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:45 am to
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And the hospital likely didn't report this as such without a test proving it.
You don't have proof. -TH03
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This article is about this nurse saying she knows it was covid, not the hospital saying she had it.
You didn't read the article or the OP.
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Valentine said Varon told her he was certain she had COVID-19,
Varon is the doctor. He was "certain" she had covid.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:47 am to
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Are you retarded?


Don't get mad at me. Your post was confusing.

quote:

The post is straight forward.


No it wasn't.

Your initial post seemed to argue that there was no incentive to lie about COVID diagnoses. It was even dripping with your typical Fedora-wearer sarcasm . . . " if U REEpeet iT eNUF . . ."

That's why I asked for clarity on your position. It seems you want audited results that there is fraud in the system, a system which you admit provides an incentive for fraud. If you want to be an autist on an anonymous message board, that's fine.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52680 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:47 am to
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This article is about this nurse saying she knows it was covid, not the hospital saying she had it.



What?

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On Saturday, her doctor, Joseph Varon, called and asked Valentine to go in for a CT scan, she said.

Between the CT scan results indicating the virus' effect on her lungs and other lab results, Valentine said Varon told her he was certain she had COVID-19, even though her swab test had come back negative.


The article is about a nurse being told she has COVID-19 with no proof of it.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 8:49 am
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5923 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:47 am to
She took the wrong test then one that’s not very accurate. To me the dumbest line is her saying it’s surprising as an ICU nurse. She treats people with Covid and surprised she could’ve needed intubation?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:48 am to
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Varon is the doctor. He was "certain" she had covid.


He made no comment on the story, it's her words

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Valentine said Varon told her he was certain she had COVID-19


Regardless, that isn't the hospital reporting it as a covid case. It's the opinion of one doctor.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:49 am to
Tell me you know the difference between a doctor and a hospital, right?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72514 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:49 am to
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They get it because treating covid patients is much more expensive than caring for anyone else who comes into the hospital without covid.


That’s an extremely wide brush you’re painting with. There are PLENTY of covid patients in hospitals on room air for multiple weeks receiving only very minimal care.

Quite often they’re hospitalized due to widespread testing of the facility they live in and being dumped at the ER with mild symptoms that do not get worse. Hospital then becomes stuck with them without a discharge destination that will accept them until negative test returns.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 8:52 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52680 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:50 am to
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Tell me you know the difference between a doctor and a hospital, right?


You think a hospital isn’t going to report it as COVID-19 when it’s what the doctor diagnosed the patient with?
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