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re: A Texas ICU nurse is hospitalized with coronavirus after testing negative
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:48 am to RB10
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:48 am to RB10
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The people who believe this is a COVID-19 case with no actual proof, or the ones saying it’s not COVID-19 because of the lack of proof?
would you like me to link all the studies arguing how CT scans are more accurate at diagnosing COVID?
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:50 am to Salmon
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would you like me to link all the studies arguing how CT scans are more accurate at diagnosing COVID?
So more articles about doctors using symptoms that are related to several other viruses to claim it’s COVID-19 without actual proof?
No thanks. The one in the OP is enough.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:51 am to RB10
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So more articles about doctors using symptoms that are related to several other viruses to claim it’s COVID-19 without actual proof?
Yikes.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:53 am to John88
Man that is crazy to think an ICU nurse is treating Covid-19 patients without wearing a mask herself.
I mean the mask is all we need to protect ourselves so clearly if she got it she wasn't wearing a mask...
I mean the mask is all we need to protect ourselves so clearly if she got it she wasn't wearing a mask...
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:53 am to Salmon
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Yikes.
My reaction every time “COVID-19 symptoms” are used as “proof”.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:56 am to RB10
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My reaction every time “COVID-19 symptoms” are used as “proof”.
Yeah. You are definitely the "flat earther" in this thread
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:56 am to Salmon
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would you like me to link all the studies arguing how CT scans are more accurate at diagnosing COVID?
You can. A lot of the reports were based on Chinese studies too. No thanks.
A recent UVA report stated the following:
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Since some areas of the world lack adequate access to testing, care providers have tried to use imaging tests to diagnose COVID-19. This is usually done with a CT scan or chest x-ray. While patients with COVID-19 can show an abnormality on either a chest x-ray or CT scan, many other lung problems can look very similar. Additionally, the absence of an abnormality on either a chest x-ray or CT scan does not necessarily exclude COVID-19. For this reason, most experts and medical societies advise against the use of an imaging test to diagnose or rule out COVID-19.
LINK HERE
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:57 am to Salmon
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Yeah. You are definitely the "flat earther" in this thread
So the ones claiming things without proof are the round earthers?
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:59 am to Mo Jeaux
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Additionally, the absence of an abnormality on either a chest x-ray or CT scan does not necessarily exclude COVID-19. For this reason, most experts and medical societies advise against the use of an imaging test to diagnose or rule out COVID-19.
“It may be COVID-19. IT’S COVID-19!!!”
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:59 am to Mo Jeaux
Right. There is certainly a debate among the use. Not denying that.
Which is likely why other tests were also ran.
We shouldn't rely on one or other, especially when someone is displaying all the symptoms.
Which is likely why other tests were also ran.
We shouldn't rely on one or other, especially when someone is displaying all the symptoms.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:00 am to Salmon
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Right. There is certainly a debate among the use. Not denying that.
It was proof positive just a minute ago. Not it’s “a debate”.
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We shouldn't rely on one or other, especially when someone is displaying all the symptoms.
Symptoms = proof
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:01 am to RB10
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So the ones claiming things without proof are the round earthers?
:sigh:
It has been illustrated to you multiple times that there are other ways to diagnose COVID and they are not all symptom based.
You refuse to believe that from some reason.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:02 am to Salmon
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It has been illustrated to you multiple times that there are other ways to diagnose COVID and they are not all symptom based.
You refuse to believe that from some reason.
Like the testing?
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:03 am to RB10
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Symptoms = proof
Cool. You have fun with your reductionist arguments.
Everything is a conspiracy.
Have fun.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:04 am to RB10
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Like the testing?
Yes. Testing that provides up to 20% false negatives.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:06 am to Salmon
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Yes. Testing that provides up to 20% false negatives.
Soooo
Testing can’t prove it’s COVID-19. Symptoms can’t prove it’s COVID-19. CT scans can’t prove it’s COVID-19.
But when you add all of these together it’s cool to assume it’s COVID-19, and report it as such?
Got it.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:12 am to RB10
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Testing can’t prove it’s COVID-19.
It can. Not always.
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Symptoms can’t prove it’s COVID-19.
They can. Not always.
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CT scans can’t prove it’s COVID-19.
They can. Not always.
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But when you add all of these together it’s cool to assume it’s COVID-19, and report it as such?
Yes. More information equals better, more accurate results.
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Got it.
I would say finally, but you probably think that post was some amazing "gotcha", which is just incredible.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:13 am to Salmon
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Yes. More information equals better, more accurate results.
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Not always.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:14 am to RB10
Nothing is 100%
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:15 am to Salmon
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would say finally, but you probably think that post was some amazing "gotcha", which is just incredible.
The only person trying to “gotcha” in this exchange was you with your “do you need links to ALL of the articles about CT scans” quip.
That was until Mo Jeaux slapped you with some reality.
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