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re: A perfect memorial for an imperfect man, Ulysses S. Grant
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Forrest was an uncomplicated man w
That "firstest with the mostest" quote is bullshite.
Forrest did not speak that way.
Here is an excerpt from a letter he wrote to General Bragg.
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"I have stood your meanness as long as I intend to. You have played the part of a damned scoundrel, and are a coward, and if you were any part of a man I would slap your jaws and force you to resent it. You may as well not issue any more orders to me, for I will not obey them, and I will hold you personally responsible for any further indignities you endeavor to inflict upon me. You have threatened to arrest me for not obeying your orders promptly. I dare you to do it, and I say to you that if you ever again try to interfere with me or cross my path it will be at the peril of your life." General Forrest to General Braxton Bragg.
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:10 pm to X123F45
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I'll give him this, he understood logistics better than all but one man in the confederacy.
Lee was absolutely terrible with supply and logistics. If there was one area in which Grant was truly Lee's superior, it was in the realm of supply and logistics.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:20 pm to PrivatePublic
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White? Check
Statue? Check
Tear it down.
His wife was a slave owner and he actually owned 1 slave just prior to CW
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:42 pm to windshieldman
That's one too many. He was a slaveholder. Take 'em down!
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:46 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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I say to you that if you ever again try to interfere with me or cross my path it will be at the peril of your life.
Nathan Bedford Forrest would be Andrew Jackson reincarnated if they weren't alive at the same time
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:46 pm to RollTide1987
People who think Grant merely won by just superior numbers completely underestimate and downplay his greatness. His campaigns out west were masterpieces of maneuver.
As much as it pains me to admit, Grant was a great general.
As much as it pains me to admit, Grant was a great general.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:56 pm to RollTide1987
I visited Grant’s Tomb in NYC. They have a nice little museum with a short film. The tomb itself has some nice statues of five of his generals. Worth a quick visit if you’re in the area.
I was the only person in the museum during the time I visited, and only a couple other people were in the tomb. Had a good visit with a park ranger lady. She gave me a tip on Alexander Hamilton’s somewhat nearby country house, so I hopped a bus to Harlem (something I never dreamed I would ever do) and visited it too.
I was the only person in the museum during the time I visited, and only a couple other people were in the tomb. Had a good visit with a park ranger lady. She gave me a tip on Alexander Hamilton’s somewhat nearby country house, so I hopped a bus to Harlem (something I never dreamed I would ever do) and visited it too.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:08 pm to windshieldman
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he actually owned 1 slave just prior to CW
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:11 pm to RollTide1987
Grant and wife owned slaves....
TEAR IT DOWN
TEAR IT DOWN
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:20 pm to Strannix
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He was a drunk and a buffoon
So the supposed GOAT general lost to a drunken buffoon? SAD
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:22 pm to Mike da Tigah
Trivia...Grant was the last U.S. President to have owned slaves.
After he resigned his commission from the army in 1854, he went to run his father-in-law's plantation in Missouri, just outside of St. Louis.
After he resigned his commission from the army in 1854, he went to run his father-in-law's plantation in Missouri, just outside of St. Louis.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:22 pm to Dr RC
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So the supposed GOAT general lost to a drunken buffoon? SAD
Yeah it was they simple
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:27 pm to Strannix
Pretty much. The traitor Lee got his arse beat down. 
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:34 pm to RollTide1987
But but but he owned slaves!
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:40 pm to RollTide1987
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If there was one area in which Grant was truly Lee's superior, it was in the realm of supply and logistics.
In Lee's defense by the time he was up against Grant he didnt have much in the way of supplies anyway
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:41 pm to Dr RC
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Pretty much. The traitor Lee got his arse beat down
Dr. LowIQ
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:44 pm to Lawyered
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Grants basically trying to finish his Memoirs to provide for his family as he’s dying of lung cancer from all the cigars he smoked throughout his life .
Always fascinated by that.
Poor guy didn’t know all he had to do was start a foundation and he could have lived the rest of his days like one of the richest men in the country, with his offspring set for generations.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:47 pm to RollTide1987
Seeing as how Grant was one of the best horesemen ever to be in the Army, that's an apt memorial. His ability with them was beyond exceptional.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:50 pm to agdoctor
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Staying drink made Grant immune
He wasn't anything like the drunk you ignorant know nothings make him out to be. Especially during the war and afterwards.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:54 pm to windshieldman
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This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 3:58 pm
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