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re: A little history on Viet Nam
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:01 pm to 427Nova
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:01 pm to 427Nova
If he didn’t believe in the war, then how could he accept them?
Blood from Vietnam war is was on the government and politicians hands through their lies and poor decision making. Vietnam just wanted to unify, mind its own business, and do its own thing.
Blood from Vietnam war is was on the government and politicians hands through their lies and poor decision making. Vietnam just wanted to unify, mind its own business, and do its own thing.
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:03 pm to JustDooIt
Any war on foreign soil should have to be voted on by the public at large. Our ancestors did not die so that our military can prop up failed regimes and further American corporate interests abroad.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:05 pm to JustDooIt
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There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall
for nothing
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:09 pm to WinnPtiger
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There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall
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for nothing
It didn’t have to be this way and it wouldn’t been this way if Congress had not snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 1973.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:17 pm to Darth_Vader
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It didn’t have to be this way and it wouldn’t been this way if Congress had not snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 1973.
it didn’t have to happen at all. 60,000 American boys sent to slaughter with no discernible goal in mind. the same people who signed off on it have disciples in the DOD right this second chomping at the bit to spill more American blood on the eurasian steppe, with even less of a goal in mind
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:38 pm to Darth_Vader
I thought you were old enough to have served in Vietnam?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:40 pm to Breauxsif
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I thought you were old enough to have served in Vietnam?
No. Born 1970. I’m Gen X. My wars were the Cold War (thankfully never hot) and the First Gulf War.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:02 am to BottomlandBrew
3,300,000 total vietnamese died
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:30 am to JustDooIt
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39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger.
8,283 were just 19 years old.
The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old. 12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old.
How does that work?
40,000 were 22 or under but over 41,000 were 18 or 19?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:05 am to JustDooIt
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This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:31 am to rhar61
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The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old. 12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old.
How does that work?
40,000 were 22 or under but over 41,000 were 18 or 19?
Terrible grammar/structure.
I think he's trying to say "The largest age group = 33"(PERIOD, not comma). 103 were 18 years old."
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:17 am to pankReb
Here is a WWII little known tale. My G’father was a Marine. I honestly forget his title, but he was over an entire fleet in the S Pacific. There were many rumors floating around about the timeline on when we would have the Atom Bomb ready to go. He had put in his order for winter gear. And the order was not delivered. Between that and other info, he was able to deduce that we had the A Bomb ready to go, and that the war would be over soon. It was at that point that he received orders to move his fleet and attack a couple islands. He saw no point in killing that many men when he knew the war would be over as soon as we dropped the big one. So, he disobeyed orders and did not attack. Probably saved a lot of lives. Never moved up in rank again. But he slept well at night.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:15 am to The Goat
Pretty cool story. 
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:46 am to PeteRose
Right. He said he just fought for the guy next to him and he try to get back home alive. That’s what most did. Nothing about Patriotic/America BS. Just get you and your guys in your platoon home safe.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:56 am to 427Nova
From Ballad of a Retired Man, a song by Ian Noe
And later on that winter
When it took its hold
He saw the man in the mirror
Beaten up and old
And the kids came often
And the grandkids, too
Bringing all those groceries
Crying "I love you"
They wiped the tears from their faces
Said, "Tell me, what is wrong?"
I'm still the same old baby
Stuck in Vietnam
And later on that winter
When it took its hold
He saw the man in the mirror
Beaten up and old
And the kids came often
And the grandkids, too
Bringing all those groceries
Crying "I love you"
They wiped the tears from their faces
Said, "Tell me, what is wrong?"
I'm still the same old baby
Stuck in Vietnam
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:13 am to JustDooIt
That's Vietfrickingnam to you
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:27 am to JustDooIt
I've told this story on TD before:
Years ago I was working construction and we were doing a remodel on a big Uptown NOLA house with a ground floor basement and the living area on the second floor. In the basement was a BSA motorcycle with flat tires and a half inch of dust on it. The old man who owned the house told us that the bike belonged to his son. His son had bought it a few months before he got his draft notice. The bike was in the exact place his son had parked it the last time he rode it. His son was KIA in Vietnam and the bike had not been touched or moved since then.
You could see the pain in the old man's face when he was telling us this.
Years ago I was working construction and we were doing a remodel on a big Uptown NOLA house with a ground floor basement and the living area on the second floor. In the basement was a BSA motorcycle with flat tires and a half inch of dust on it. The old man who owned the house told us that the bike belonged to his son. His son had bought it a few months before he got his draft notice. The bike was in the exact place his son had parked it the last time he rode it. His son was KIA in Vietnam and the bike had not been touched or moved since then.
You could see the pain in the old man's face when he was telling us this.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:38 am to doublecutter
I know this holiday is for those who made the ultimate sacrifice, as it well should be.
But lest we forget those who did come back but were never the same. Still in Saigon as they say.
I've known several. Alcoholics, drug addicts, misfits, unable to cope. War is hell.
But lest we forget those who did come back but were never the same. Still in Saigon as they say.
I've known several. Alcoholics, drug addicts, misfits, unable to cope. War is hell.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:47 am to FLObserver
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Talked about putting his friends in body bags.
Damn. That teared me up.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:49 am to FreeState
Our Baws that went to Afghanistan as well. Most of the ones I know are pretty fricked up. I can't imagine ever having to endure what those guys endured, much less at the age of 18. Those guys are never the same.
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