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A little history on Viet Nam

Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted by JustDooIt
Steeelwood
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:01 pm
A little history most people will never know.
Interesting Veterans Statistics off the Vietnam Memorial Wall
There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall, including those added in 2010.
The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 36 years since the last casualties.
The first known casualty was Richard B. Fitzgibbon, of North Weymouth , Mass. Listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having been killed on June 8, 1956. His name is listed on the Wall with that of his son, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, who was killed on Sept. 7, 1965.
There are three sets of fathers and sons on the Wall.
39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger.
8,283 were just 19 years old.
The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old. 12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old.
5 soldiers on the Wall were 16 years old.
One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock was 15 years old.
997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam ..
1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam ..
31 sets of brothers are on the Wall.
Thirty one sets of parents lost two of their sons.
54 soldiers attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . I wonder why so many from one school.
8 Women are on the Wall. Nursing the wounded.
244 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War; 153 of them are on the Wall.
Beallsville, Ohio with a population of 475 lost 6 of her sons.
West Virginia had the highest casualty rate per capita in the nation. There are 711 West Virginians on the Wall.
The Marines of Morenci - They led some of the scrappiest high school football an d basketball teams that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses along the Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest. And in the patriotic camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps. Their service began on Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home.
The Buddies of Midvale - LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah on Fifth, Sixth and Seventh avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent sandlot ball field. And they all went to Vietnam. In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967, all three would be killed. LeRoy was killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy's assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7, Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.
The most casualty deaths for a single day was on January 31, 1968 ~ 245 deaths.
The most casualty deaths for a single month was May 1968 - 2,415 casualties were incurred.
For most Americans who read this they will only see the numbers that the Vietnam War created. To those of us who survived the war, and to the families of those who did not, we see the faces, we feel the pain that these numbers created. We are, until we too pass away, haunted with these numbers, because they were our friends, fathers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters. There are no noble wars, just noble warriors.
(Thank you Philip F Perretta, '63)
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Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23476 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:04 pm to
that was sad and somber
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35570 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:05 pm to
If you really want to get pissed off at our government watch Vietnam by Ken Burns.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203059 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:06 pm to
The numbers are tragic, and thank you for your service. What’s also tragic is why we were even there. IMO.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8154 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:08 pm to
My daddy is a USMC Vietnam Vet.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4092 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:09 pm to


Very young men treated like cannon fodder.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11256 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:10 pm to
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997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam ..
1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam ..

Most of these have to be in transport into or out of country.
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
1801 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:16 pm to
God blessed me. I got lucky and found a spot in the Abbeville unit of the National Guard in June of 1969. I received my notice to go to New Orleans for a draft physical 10 days later. The first draft lottery was held later that year. My number was 3. I was blessed.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6461 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:16 pm to
If we're going to do this, I'd be remiss to not mention the man on the POW/MIA bracelet I've had for more than 25 years. William D. Pruett. Lost 28 JAN 1970, from VA. He was a part of a rescue crew looking for (as I understand it) a B-52 crew.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4794 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:16 pm to
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54 soldiers attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . I wonder why so many from one school.


Some of them selective service bitches at the post office weren’t letting anyone get by them. Per my FIL. They’d come to the high school graduation and sign up the stragglers if they had to.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48417 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:20 pm to
In late 1914 and early 1915 in Great Britain, many young women organized themselves and went around town and country seeking out young men who had not yet Enlisted to serve in the trenches of World War One. They gave them a single white feather as a sign of the contempt that British young women felt for those who had not yet Enlisted and volunteered to fight in the trenches.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29105 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:22 pm to
All so that piece of shite Lyndon Johnson and his MIC buddies could make a killing. I want to piss on his grave, the bastard.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29330 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:23 pm to
I’m reading Vietnam: an epic tragedy by Max Hastings and it’s really good so far
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71174 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:27 pm to
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54 soldiers attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . I wonder why so many from one school.


Apparently it's a vo-tech school. So no five student deferments for those kids.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6461 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:29 pm to
The blender of men wasn't going to feed itself, Kitchener wants you to know.

This is a bad weekend to read it, but, "The Psychology of Military Incompetence," will depress the shite out of everyone.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14473 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:30 pm to
My dad was the only one drafted from the little hick town i grew up in Louisiana. I once saw a few medals in the shed in a box and the scrap book with it that had him/his platoon and the Vietnamese soldiers they worked with them in the jungles there. Only talked about Vietnam one time while we were traveling up the mountain in Montana. Talked about putting his friends in body bags. Will never forget that conversation and what those surviving guys still have to deal with. Really think this Holiday is one of the most important ones that real Americans should stop and think about.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23476 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:34 pm to
Dad was a Marine pilot who went to Vietnam several times. As the war was winding down, the politicians wanted the Marines to go out on foot patrols, even though the casualty rate was high due to ambushes and booby traps.

So Dad and Gen. Marion Carl figured out a way to stop the patrols and do them by helicopter, which was much more effective and safer. Gen. Carl was a tough customer who didn't give a frick about what politicians wanted.

Gen. Carl was killed by a home invader. He blocked the intruder off from his wife and took a bullet doing so. Like Dad, Gen Carl was a WWII, Korea and Vietnam Vet.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23989 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
Spent the day a Arlington today. Left a rose on the Tomb on the Unknowns. (This is the one day of the year when you can "cross the rope" and do so. Sobering experience. God bless the men and women that gave their lives to keep us free.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12445 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:38 pm to
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If you really want to get pissed off at our government, especially LBJ, watch Vietnam by Ken Burns.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30265 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:39 pm to
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One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock was 15 years old


Do we have an explanation on how this happened? A 15 year old enlisted and in a war zone?
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 4:40 pm
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