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re: A 20-year-old armed man with a rifle, handgun and body armor was stopped by CCW Fireman
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:12 am to slackster
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:12 am to slackster
quote:
open carrying is not.
Legit question.
If a Muslim American citizen dressed in your stereotypical muslim threads, large beard, etc.. walked into Wally world with an AK47/AR "tactical" appearing rifle hanging from his back what do you think the response would be? should be?
*general question, not just in response to post.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 11:13 am
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Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:14 am to Saskwatch
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If a Muslim American citizen dressed in your stereotypical muslim threads, large beard, etc.. walked into Wally world with an AK47/AR "tactical" appearing rifle hanging from his back what do you think the response would be? should be?
The same if it were a white guy walking into WalMart with an AK47...get the frick out of the store.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:14 am to slackster
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Shall not infringe is apparently okay if it's scary.
Not every state allows open carry, so limits to it are allowed.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:17 am to Barbellthor
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Hell no. This is attempt all day long. Attempted terrorist acts, murder,
attempted murder and attempted terrorist acts? You're an idiot
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:18 am to SeeeeK
I find it odd that you need a permit to conceal carry but not one to open carry. It seems like that should be the opposite.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:21 am to Saskwatch
quote:
If a Muslim American citizen dressed in your stereotypical muslim threads, large beard, etc.. walked into Wally world with an AK47/AR "tactical" appearing rifle hanging from his back what do you think the response would be? should be?
Would be? He'd probably get shot, detained at the very least.
Should be? It's hard to find a reason anything should be done based on the 2nd amendment.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:21 am to OweO
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After 9/11... If there was a Middle eastern muslim looking man walking around with a bomb.. He is just walking around with it, never set it off.. Just walking around NYC with this bomb that all he had to do was connect and set off.. What would have happened to him?
He would be arrested genius, just like every other person would walking around with a bomb strapped to themselves.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:22 am to Dizz
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Not every state allows open carry, so limits to it are allowed.
Here is Missouri's statute:
571.037. Open display of firearm permitted, when. — Any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued prior to August 28, 2013, or a valid concealed carry permit, and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, may briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self defense.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:25 am to Ed Osteen
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attempted murder and attempted terrorist acts? You're an idiot
You should read the statute for a terroristic threat, it's really not idiotic to charge him with that
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:27 am to Dizz
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Not every state allows open carry, so limits to it are allowed.
I know, and there are various other limits and infringements on the 2nd amendment. I just find it amusing hardline 2A folks are cool with this guy getting detained for carrying a "scary" gun. That same logic is going to get AR-15s and similar looking guns banned.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:34 am to GetCocky11
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lol, ok. I just wanted to ask because these threads always have those people who would say "I'd ignore him because it is his right to carry all of that."
This is a weird predicament - I believe open carry is an absolute right based on the 2A, but I also believe the vast majority of guys who open carry are imbeciles. I don't want the law to change based on the principle of the matter, but I'd be lying if I said I cared about the people who would truly be affected.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:36 am to slackster
If you conceal carry no one knows you have a gun. Why do you need a permit if no one knows you have a gun?
You should need an easily obtainable permit to open carry instead while needing nothing to conceal carry.
You should need an easily obtainable permit to open carry instead while needing nothing to conceal carry.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:53 am to slackster
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I just find it amusing hardline 2A folks are cool with this guy getting detained for carrying a "scary" gun.
If you don't see that there is more than that going on in this situation, you need to start taking the short bus to school.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:58 am to CP3
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He is doing way more harm than good in the fight for our gun rights.
Perhaps that was his intent?
Has any more information come out yet on motive?
Posted on 8/9/19 at 12:01 pm to CP3
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If you don't see that there is more than that going on in this situation, you need to start taking the short bus to school.
Have you read the thread? It's turned into people wanting open carry to require a permit or to be banned altogether.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:25 pm to SeeeeK
I get open carry of a pistol. Anyone that open carries a military style gun with multiple rounds while wearing body armor, in this day and age, needs to be stopped.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:27 pm to slackster
I don't see how you can allow open carry outside of rural areas. We're trying to have a society here.
ETA: I'm talking about long guns.
ETA: I'm talking about long guns.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:30 pm to rpr4695
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I hate to be that guy, but which laws did the armed man break?
you can be detained on suspicion. If he didn't intend to shoot up the joint, then his intentions were to get a reaction and that's the reaction he got. You can't incite panic.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:37 pm to kjp811
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you can be detained on suspicion.
It has to be suspicion of a specific crime just general suspicious behavior is not grounds to detain someone. I think what is going to get this guy if he is charged with anything will be when he asked about buying something that could hurt people (or something like that).
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:43 pm to Dizz
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It has to be suspicion of a specific crime
You do have that here in this incident
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