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re: A 20-year-old armed man with a rifle, handgun and body armor was stopped by CCW Fireman

Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:40 pm to
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No one has come forward and said there was yet.
I think the police did. Though they haven't yet specified what crime.

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At this time, the only crime we see being committed is kidnapping.
Wrong.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37467 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:41 pm to
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Like I said earlier, if they ban open carry, it will be no skin off my back in a practical sense, but from a principled standpoint, you're going to have a problem.
At some point we need to use some common sense here.

(I'm sure I'll also get shite on for that comment by the mob )

ETA: don't we already infringe upon the right to bear arms by only allowing certain weapons to be owned by those with certain licenses? It's not like we never limit gun ownership.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40161 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:41 pm to
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That is not the same scenario we are talking about here
Yes it is. That's what I'm trying to point out: the principle in question is...2A or no 2A. Just because you judge the point of abridgement to be appropriate in this instance of public carry and the leftists judges it to be in the stockpiling of weapons in the home does NOT mean you disagree on the principle. You are just at different degrees of the SAME spectrum - namely, no 2A.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:43 pm to
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You are just at different degrees of the SAME spectrum - namely, no 2A.



Nope.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40161 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:45 pm to
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Nope.
If you think it's OK to kidnap someone for doing legal things, then...yep.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:46 pm to
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If you think it's OK to kidnap someone for doing legal things, then...yep.


Again, what he was doing may not have been legal
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37467 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:47 pm to
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If you think it's OK to kidnap someone for doing legal things, then...yep.
So, if you have the midset that the kid was kidnapped, do you think he was well within his rights to fire at the CCW guy that pulled his gun out to detain him?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40161 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:50 pm to
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So, if you have the midset that the kid was kidnapped, do you think he was well within his rights to fire at the CCW guy that pulled his gun out to detain him?
Depends on the detainment, but it's easy to imagine scenarios in which use of deadly force by him would have been entirely defensible.
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:56 pm to
Anyone here who suggests that this guy was only walking around Walmart with body armor, an assault rifle and 100 rounds of ammo in support of his right to open carry firearms is being disingenuous. He did this days after a mass shooting, at a Walmart to either scare the frick out of people or to commit a mass shooting himself.

To the ones saying the off duty fireman kidnapped him, don't act like you wouldn't do the same fricking thing if you were in that Walmart when that happened.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:00 pm to
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We already do that, don't we?


I think most "slippery slope" arguments are hogwash made up to rile the masses, but for the 2A, it's probably true.

It's probably already begun. The Supreme Court decision in Heller has laid a foundation for potential banning of guns to everywhere but the home.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37467 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:14 pm to
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It's probably already begun. The Supreme Court decision in Heller has laid a foundation for potential banning of guns to everywhere but the home.

Right, and we already have public places where guns are banned. Schools, airports, churches, federal properties, etc...
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