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re: A 20-year-old armed man with a rifle, handgun and body armor was stopped by CCW Fireman

Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16216 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
What crime?
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10967 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

“His intent was not to cause peace or comfort to anybody that was in the business. In fact, he’s lucky to be alive still to be honest,” he told reporters.

People like that prick should be shot.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:59 pm to
574.115. Making a terrorist threat, first degree — penalty. — 1. A person commits the offense of making a terrorist threat in the first degree if such person, with the purpose of frightening ten or more people or causing the evacuation, quarantine or closure of any portion of a building, inhabitable structure, place of assembly or facility of transportation, knowingly:
(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life
; or
(2) Communicates a false report of an incident or condition involving danger to life; or
(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life.
2. The offense of making a terrorist threat in the first degree is a class D felony.
3. No offense is committed under this section by a person acting in good faith with the purpose to prevent harm.


Wouldn't you say there is at least a suspicion of this? Enough to detain the guy and ask a few questions?
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4232 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 2:28 pm to
I wouldn't sympathize with him whatsoever if someone had shot him. Tensions are way too high to be pulling a stunt like this and you are 100% tempting fate. Look at Times Square after that motorcycle backfired.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Call me anti-American. But I'm not ok with this. I'm all for the 2nd amendment, and people being able to carry protection for themselves everywhere.

There is no reason at all for someone to be carrying a large-scale weapon like that. There is no other reason than to be an ahole who thinks they're a badass, while also spreading mass fear. Its stupid.

Not only the rifle but the 100 round drum mag as well. Atlanta has the world's busiest airport, imagine arriving as a foreigner and seeing this jackass walking around like that.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37467 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Carrying around a bomb is illegal, open carrying is not.
I think his point is, maybe it should be?

Eliminate open carry, if you want to carry in public have a concealed carry license

I'm sure I'll be called a libtard for that take though.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40161 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:20 pm to
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It’s guys like this that make it impossible to differentiate between law abiding people and mass murderers. He dresses up like a mass murderer and goes into a crowded public place. How are we to know his innermost true desires? Screw that guy.
You understand this is on the spectrum of the left's arguments, right? They can just say "he stockpiles weapons like a mass murderer" in response to gun guys buying a lot of guns and ammo. Don't kid yourself into believing your stance is actually different than the left's just because your standard is this public display and there's is inside your home. It's a difference of degree, not principle.

The only principled stand here is that the kid did NOTHING wrong and was kidnapped.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40161 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:22 pm to
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You can use common sense without taking away rights
And the left will say that "common sense" dictates YOU owning 25 guns inside your home is a reason to take away your rights.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

I think his point is, maybe it should be?


Open carry, on the surface, is the most fundamental right to bear arms.

The fact that 99% of people that do it are DBs should be irrelevant.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37467 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Open carry, on the surface, is the most fundamental right to bear arms.
Why is that? By eliminating open carry, you aren't removing the ability to own guns. You aren't eliminating the ability to carry guns. You're just eliminating the ability to display guns on your person, while in public.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

the kid did NOTHING wrong and was kidnapped.


That really depends on what his motivations were for going to Wal-Mart geared up like he did
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
67139 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

That really depends on what his motivations were for going to Wal-Mart geared up like he did

We're throwing people in jail now for motivations?

Intent without a crime isn't a crime.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:35 pm to
Yeah it's always funny to see self proclaimed conservatives on here promoting thought crime.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31147 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:36 pm to
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Why is that? By eliminating open carry, you aren't removing the ability to own guns. You aren't eliminating the ability to carry guns. You're just eliminating the ability to display guns on your person, while in public.


You are limiting the type of guns they can carry.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40161 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

That really depends on what his motivations were for going to Wal-Mart geared up like he did
Again, same language as the left. Why does Mr. Smith down the street "need" to buy 50 guns? Has he done something wrong? Well, that depends on his motivations for buying 50 guns. The natural endpoint of this logic is that the right is abridgeable based purely on the judgment of what is going on inside someone else's head.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

We're throwing people in jail now for motivations?


Well motivations plus actions.

quote:

Intent without a crime isn't a crime.


Who says there wasn't a crime?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37467 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

You are limiting the type of guns they can carry.
We already do that, don't we?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Well, that depends on his motivations for buying 50 guns.


That is not the same scenario we are talking about here
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Why is that? By eliminating open carry, you aren't removing the ability to own guns. You aren't eliminating the ability to carry guns. You're just eliminating the ability to display guns on your person, while in public.


Which, in turn, eliminates essentially any long gun from being carried in public.

Like I said earlier, if they ban open carry, it will be no skin off my back in a practical sense, but from a principled standpoint, you're going to have a problem.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
67139 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Who says there wasn't a crime?

No one has come forward and said there was yet. I think that's been the general gist of this thread. At this time, the only crime we see being committed is kidnapping.
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