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Posted on 3/21/21 at 7:43 pm to dewster
Solar power is a pipe dream.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 7:43 pm to Penrod
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EVERY form of energy is subsidized.
FIFY
Posted on 3/21/21 at 7:50 pm to dewster
Where off Rosedale road is this?
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:05 pm to dewster
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They are getting special tax breaks to do it.
So we're against tax breaks now?
Are tax breaks considered to be subsidies if its for something we don't like?
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:06 pm to Penrod
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YES. They are being subsidized.
Yes, but they shouldn't be. At least not for giant solar farms like this.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:36 pm to goofball
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Yes, but they shouldn't be. At least not for giant solar farms like this.
Why? What makes them different from residential systems?
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:37 pm to BeepNode
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So we're against tax breaks now?
Yes when there are so few jobs involved.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:41 pm to doubleb
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Yes when there are so few jobs involved.
You’re getting hung up on the long term local jobs. Think of it more like a pipeline. There will be a shite load of construction workers, electricians, engineers, linesman etc. working on this. And while there may only be a couple local jobs, there are teams of people monitoring, ordering reviews by drones, and more to keep these producing how they need to be to keep the economics right side up.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:47 pm to BeepNode
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Are tax breaks considered to be subsidies if its for something we don't like?
Yeah it's inconsistent to be for tax breaks for a refinery and against tax breaks for a solar farm.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:51 pm to dewster
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98.1-megawatt solar farm on 1,000 acres
Wow, you can put a 200MW gas turbine on maybe 5-10 acres. Another 10 gets a heat recovery unit for another 25-50 MW.
I'm all for new energy methods but I'm just not sure solar will get anywhere close to gas methods. Environmental, cost, life span, etc.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:54 pm to wt9
Early steam turbines couldn't power an electrical grid either. This is first generation stuff. It'll get more efficient.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 8:56 pm to wt9
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Wow, you can put a 200MW gas turbine on maybe 5-10 acres. Another 10 gets a heat recovery unit for another 25-50 MW.
Solar is by far the largest footprint for energy. It’s really best deployed in useless places like Arizona and West Texas. But who am I to tell landowners and investors what to do with their land.
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I'm all for new energy methods but I'm just not sure solar will get anywhere close to gas methods. Environmental, cost, life span, etc.
This thread actually brings up a good point, how different each gen type is and what they all need. Look at the discrepancy in FTE needed to run a 200MW and recovery unit compared to the solar. Jobs can be good, but solid state technology has benefits like lower labor costs. To get an idea how this all works you really need to compare the long term economics.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:04 pm to dewster
I'm hoping they use Array Technologies, because that stock needs to bounce back
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:10 pm to dewster
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Will support a whopping 3 permanent jobs
quote:How much manpower is required to generate the same amount of power using "traditional" sources?
potential to power 20,500 homes
Obviously a nuclear plant requires more manpower, but it also can generate a helluva lot more power than basically just the combined homes of the Watson/Walker metroplex.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:12 pm to dewster
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To save the Earth, we must perpetually deface its surface and destroy habitat in order to break our oil addiction!
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:19 pm to lsuoilengr
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Sucking up prime real estate
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million Solar Farm proposed in Morehouse Paris
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Farm proposed in Morehouse Parish
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proposed in Morehouse Parish
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in Morehouse Parish
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:22 pm to Jim Rockford
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It'll get more efficient.
They better hustle. They've been working on it since the late 1800s.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:28 pm to LegendInMyMind
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They better hustle. They've been working on it since the late 1800s.
It’s disingenuous to compare them to the first generation of solar modules. 1954 would be accurate and when the Si modules were developed at 6% efficiency. And the efficiency has be climbing rapidly since investment started pouring into the industry in the 2000s.
Similarly to fracking. Money shows up, tech advances, good shite happens.
Using 1800 for PV is like comparing modern oil to whale oil.
ETA link for anyone interested
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This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:38 pm
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