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8% of New Vehicles on the Market Cost Less than $30K

Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41077 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:21 am



I really don't understand how people do it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:22 am to
That is a higher number than I thought


Every car has 40 charging ports, air conditioned rear seats, lcd panels galore, etc. No wonder costs are so damn high with that many options.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 8:24 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6824 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:24 am to
That's surprising, $20-30K is cheaper than MANY of the used trucks I've been looking at.
Posted by Talkum Poudar
Member since Jul 2023
133 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:25 am to
Lots of people living under a metric frickton of debt

One whisker away from being totally fricked

Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4308 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:25 am to
Most of the US has no choice but to buy a car to do anything they need to do. Travel to work, pick up groceries, etc. Automakers do not care. That 2008 bailout looking more and more nefarious by the day.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18897 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:25 am to
Bring back the Yugo!*


*Google for those too young to remember.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16975 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:25 am to
The least affordable market is a no shite comment.

And yet, people are gladly paying over $1000 a month on a vehicle note
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5809 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:26 am to
Is this MSRP or the sale price after the mark ups dealers are putting on them these days?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20351 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:26 am to
Of course 100% of the people prefer an over-priced vehicle vs having to walk everywhere.

If people want cheaper cars market forces will work unless government fricks with it.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78373 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:27 am to
quote:

re: 8% of New Vehicles on the Market Cost Less than $30K


Otherwise known by dealers as The OT Poor zone.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112556 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:27 am to
quote:

How


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New vehicles


Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65540 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:37 am to
The design & build quality of modern vehicles is stupefying good.

That is expensive to achieve.

The useful life of vehicles with preventive maintenance and reasonable care is better than at any point in history.

Are there exceptions in the past 20 years? Yes, Nissan’s stupid transmissions and GM’s crappy valves but they are literally exceptions.

Folks do not take care of cars at all and do things with them that the cars weren’t designed to do and we still get 200,000 miles out of POS entry level cars.

And cars are much safer than ever.

And, the Feds have mandated strict environmental regulations on emissions.

Those improvements all cost money to achieve.

So there’s more value in cars today than ever before.

I’m not surprised that the average prices are higher.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32592 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:41 am to
Back in the late 90s/early 00s you could get a near top of the line Tahoe for just over 30k
Posted by biglosdaddy
south louisiana
Member since May 2007
837 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:41 am to
My car crapped out on me in 2021. I was just going to get a used for the time being, but the prices were comparable to new ones.

Got mine under 30, but it wasn't by much. Not too much fancy stuff in it either.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4553 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:49 am to
If poor folks would stop being stupid and just buy a corolla or camera and stop paying twice as much, prices would dome down. I make almost $200k and drive a base model 2012 Tundra with 210k on it. Folks now days are stupid with money.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12073 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:50 am to
Buy what you can afford, not what you want. If you can’t pay cash, you can’t afford it.

Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13519 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:51 am to
I bit the bullet and downgraded. Drove F-150's my entire life but there was no way I was buying one at these prices where dealers want $60k after financing for a base model. Kept my beater for heavy work around the property but just laid down $10k on a $25k Kia Sportage as a grocery getter that I'll have paid off in a year or two. I'm only home about one week every two months so it made no sense to take out a freakin mortgage for a vehicle. I'll let you guys keep the prices high for a status symbol while I keep dumping money in my retirement account.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3856 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:57 am to
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Those improvements all cost money to achieve.


Those improvements didn't happen in the past three years, which is when the price explosion happened.

Hell, cars made in the 90's got 200,000 miles and had all of the modern safety features standard. You still see lots of them on the road, especially in the working class parts of town.

Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6188 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:58 am to
here's the thing... the market supports it. if it didn't, cars would be cheaper.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28259 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:00 am to
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I really don't understand how people do it.


1. Living under significant debt is not an untenable concept any longer. In fact, it has become more or less the norm.

2. In the car market most consumers really only look at their monthly note. They don't really care all that much about the total cost. If a 72, 84, 96 month note gives you a lower monthly payment they will happily take the loan for the inflated cost of the vehicle. Even though the "asset" they just purchased will depreciate significantly over the course of the loan term.
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