re: 737 Max grounding will extend into 2020 as more problems uncovered

They did lift the Max some. It is taller than the regular 800. Personally and I'm by no means an aircraft engineer but I wonder why the Max wasn't raised 'more'. Might be because of the width of the body so you couldn't make the landing gears longer.

(Excuse typos I just woke up from one of the best naps I have had since probably pre-K and I'm still trying to get my thoughts together lol.)

if you ever wondered what would happen when you fire a lot of experienced engineers and replace them with the cheapest foreign "engineers" you can find.

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I do t really understand why they wanted to replace the 757. I liked those a lot better than the 737.

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I believe most airlines wish they hadn't quit making the 757. unfortunately, most things in aviation involve timing. 9/11 and fuel prices had the bean counters panicking and thinking about RIGHT NOW and not 10 years down the road. boeing shut down the production line and that was that.

I already know (not with engineers but something similar). Certain airlines have stopped using their mechanics (who are union and do make really good money) for certain maintenance issues and have decided to send the planes to central America to get it done 'cheaper'.

Since that swap of having non company mechanics do this work more planes 'break' so the company is then forced to send out the 'company' mechanic or mechanics who if I remember correctly gets time and a half from the moment they step foot on the plane that they are based out of until they step foot off of the plane that they are based out of.

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They will never top the 747

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The 747 was and is iconic.....I toured Shuttle Carrier N905NA in Houston yesterday. The shear versatility of that design (with some mods) was insane.

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been doing that every since they got into the narrow body bidness, the NEO has had plenty of problems, they've had a lot of problems with the LEAP engines, and issues with physical size of the engines mated with the old airframes, fan blades are composite, you can see a pile of carbon dust in the nacelles after engine shutdown

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A buddy of mine is a pilot and also a self proclaimed 'aviation geek' and he said that the Airbus is not that great of an aircraft. I wish I had asked him more about his thoughts on Airbus but we were discussing the Silk crash with the suicide captain (not sure how we went from a 737-300 to the airbus....

What I mean by my statement is Airbus should really go all out.... come out and say we will have a 'self deep inspection' on the neos so we won't be put into the same position as our competition.... safety of the people who not only fly the aircraft but fly on our aircraft is our top priority.

Airbus then cuts the price of a % of aircraft that the airline signs the contract for...

I don't think swa would go to the Airbus but I could see American possibly jumping on that deal.

I didn't know that they were the biggest. Learn something new everyday. I generally see their md-8 (mostly cause I can hear that thing from 20 miles away) the embraer and only a few Airbus. I still think Airbus should do something like I said.

Nothing cooler than an airplane boneyard

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Ironic that the mad dog engines are considered so noisy now, they one of the first engines to comply with stage three noise refs, at one time, American operated over 400 of them, down to around 14 I think, they’ll all be parked in the desert before the end of September

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They just remind me of the 737-200. Maybe not exactly but there is definitely more of a 'whine' sound to them. That's the best way that I can explain it at the moment. I will be rather sad when they are retired (next year right) because everytime I see one it reminds me of how dumb my exwife was/is..... we flew out to Vegas and we had the MD from msy-dfw and dfw-las.... she picked her seat all the way through.... she was amazed that the last row was wide open and that the window seat was available. She told me that since she planned and booked the trip the she deserves the window seat all the way to and from vegas.... I smiled and said you got it babe.... she proceeded to have the best view of the engine on every leg. I have a picture of her pissed off after realizing what had happened but I don't feel like going through 7000 (yes dont judge me) pictures on my phone to get it.

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Just crazy they're finding all these problems just by doing the basic digging they should've done to approve its flight in the first place.

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FYI - When software gets "certified" for being on commercial planes, its not uncommon to have many issues that are documented. The critical aspect is that if they impact any safety analysis or requirements for that system on the aircraft.

My guess is the FAA and Boeing execs are going through each open issue documented on the aircraft - safety related or not, to cover themselves.

And as far as the dates getting pushed back, this is again not a surprise. Getting something certified or re-certified for flight can take months to years. Obviously in this case, there will be a ton more scrutiny done in FAA reviews of the changes prior to approval.