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re: 7 fitness tests every 40 year old should be able to pass

Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:57 pm to
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That is defiintely the hardest of the 7


Hardest/least likely not very many 40 years can do:

1) farmer carry
2) dead hang
3) pull ups

rest is feasible.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:58 pm to
I’m pretty fit for 46. I don’t have 100lb dumbbells at my gym but pretty certain I couldn’t do it anyway. I’ll try the dead hang tomorrow but doubt I can do that either.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:00 pm to
38 and can do all of those pretty easy outside of the farmers carry. I have a partially torn rotator cuff and farmers carrying 90lb dumbbells would eat my right shoulder up.

I would imagine most 40 year old American men couldn't do the 10 minute mile or the pull ups. They wouldn't admit it but most probably couldn't dead hang for two minutes either.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33536 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:01 pm to
I really hope I can do all that now at age 50. Re-read and definitely can. Pull-ups have never been my strength, as it were but can def do 5.

Have a half marathon coming up in Feb and shooting for 8min/mile.

I don’t consider myself anything remotely special. Weight is what makes all of this out of reach for most people.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:03 pm to
There is a correlation between grip strength and longevity - training for a farmer's walk will not cause you to live longer. People that are active are generally carrying things, hence grip strength This is the problem with these tests that are based on correlations. You can train for grip while still being a complete slob and embracing bad habits. Seen farmers, strong as an ox, that died very young. You would do more for yourself by hitting the assault bike for 10 minutes of HIIT than to just go practice farmers for the sake of this test.

The sit and raise test is pretty absurd. Saw a video where some very fit people couldn't do that. Has nothing to do with actual fitness.

Huge problem is that a lot of people 40+ have injuries that would prevent some of these from even being attempted.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:04 pm to
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The test puts an unusual emphasis on grip strength with the pull-ups, dead hang, and farmer's carry. Popeye would do well. Conversely, the test of cardiopulmonary fitness is a 10 minute mile which is barely above walking pace.


Many people would argue that factoring only for longevity that level of cardiopulmonary fitness is all that’s needed.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:04 pm to
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When is the last time you did the dead hang or carry? 1 minute of each of those is no problem, 90 seconds would be hard but doable, 2 minutes is really fkn hard.


I do farmer walks once or twice per week. I'm pretty light so holding my bodyweight isn't that tough. Usually hang for a minute before a workout as part of my warm up. Longest I've done a dead hang is for just over 2 minutes and yeah, it was tough.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
3191 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:05 pm to
This is what AI said regarding the Farmer's Carry (had to look that one up)

quote:

The weight you should carry when doing a farmer's carry depends on your experience level and how long you want to carry the weight for:
Beginners: Start with 25% of your body weight in each hand.
Intermediate: Progress to carrying 50% or 75% of your body weight in each hand.
Advanced: Carry 60% of your body weight for 60 seconds.
Performance benchmark: Carry 75% of your body weight for 90 seconds without putting the weight down.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4064 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:06 pm to
Ha! I’m not 40!
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24135 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:06 pm to
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Hardest/least likely not very many 40 years can do:

1) farmer carry
2) dead hang
3) pull ups

rest is feasible.


I think this is probably the right order.

If you do 5 pullups all the way up and down, that's already 20+ seconds of a hang. The hang is easier than the pull, but 2 minutes is a real long time.

I certainly think the farmers walk is the most difficult
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:07 pm to
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The sit and raise test is pretty absurd. Saw a video where some very fit people couldn't do that. Has nothing to do with actual fitness.


People fall and get hurt then develop pneumonia and die due to lack of mobility all the time. Mobility is critical to health and longevity.

quote:

Huge problem is that a lot of people 40+ have injuries that would prevent some of these from even being attempted.


If they could do all these things at 40 and leading up to it they wouldn’t have those injuries, which is the point
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37363 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:08 pm to
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The hang is easier than the pull, but 2 minutes is a real long time.


Do we get gloves? If not, i'm definitely slipping off before 2 minutes
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:09 pm to
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I do farmer walks once or twice per week. I'm pretty light so holding my bodyweight isn't that tough.


Same, but 2 minutes would be really hard. I’m 90% sure I can do it, but it’s certainly not easy.

quote:

Usually hang for a minute before a workout as part of my warm up. Longest I've done a dead hang is for just over 2 minutes and yeah, it was tough.


I know I could do this one, but again, 2 minutes would be nearing my actual max capacity. And I can do like 25 pull-ups unbroken
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22394 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:10 pm to
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The argument is that grip strength would be representative of overall strength.


40 years ago maybe. But even in HS and especially college age, most males are going for bulk and maximizing muscle size and strength. Mostly for looks.

Even on our HS weightlifting team, the shorter and lighter guys generally had the best body strength per weight.

Lets take something like dips or pull ups, its a lot easier to do them at 125lbs then it is at 200lb but most people would consider a 125 lb guy tiny.

I agree this list makes some sense, but most guys that are lifting and doing some cardio are failing because few American men train for these.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213220 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:12 pm to
I’m 64 and can do that.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22394 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:12 pm to
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Huge problem is that a lot of people 40+ have injuries that would prevent some of these from even being attempted.


If they could do all these things at 40 and leading up to it they wouldn’t have those injuries, which is the point


If most Americans walked 30 miles or more a week and did 3 30 min sessions of light weight lifting their health would be perfectly fine.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
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If most Americans walked 30 miles or more a week and did 3 30 min sessions of light weight lifting their health would be perfectly fine.


If they did this they could pretty easily complete all of these with exception of the farmers carry
Posted by Mr Clean
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
Are you a Waydown South alter?
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Same, but 2 minutes would be really hard. I’m 90% sure I can do it, but it’s certainly not easy.


The farmers walks are easier to me than the dead hangs.

quote:

I know I could do this one, but again, 2 minutes would be nearing my actual max capacity. And I can do like 25 pull-ups unbroken


I'm at about the same. Training pull ups with fat grips on the bar helped me out a bit.

The dead hang thing is weird. There's a girl at work who can't do a single unaided pull up but she was able to dead hang for over three minutes. All the guys were standing around watching looking at each other like "wtf, we are a bunch of pansies"


ETA: Rice bucket training and captains of crush grippers help a lot as well. My forearms haven't really grown noticeably but my grip strength got a lot better. I pretty much spend my commute home squeezing a COC so I don't lose it on the idiots on the road.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28349 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:16 pm to
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ya'll are crazy if you think you can dead hang for a minute. Go try


I do 1 min dead hangs as part of my workouts, and yeah, a minute is pretty hard. I rarely make it much further than a minute.

The farmer carry would be hard, too. I do kettle bell miles a lot, and do 40 lbs in one hand while alternating hands every minute or two. I don't think I could do two minutes with 85 lbs in each hand. That's a long time.

I recently did the sit and raise test. It was doable, but my knees definitely didn't like moving like that. There was lots of cracking

The other items wouldn't be hard for me, but I'd be lying if I said I couldn't do them until recently.
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