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re: 64% of Americans are now living paycheck to paycheck

Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4716 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:48 pm to
And interest rates are just starting to go up....
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8660 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:50 pm to
It's not what you make, it's what you spend.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1545 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:54 pm to
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A coworker said our boss needs to increase everyone’s wages to keep up with cost of living


We finally got a 5% COL increase after not getting one for the past two years. Ironically, health insurance went up $50, my property tax increased, car insurance went up(no tickets or wrecks) and gas is sky high so I was actually able to save more last year with making less money hourly.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:56 pm to
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If you are making 6 figures and living paycheck to paycheck you are a moron.


I know many morons
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:01 pm to
Take all your savings and planning etc , and add my wife’s spending and you are still broke bro.

Here is how American women calculate spending

what you make is Y

Y times 1.2 to 1.5 is what they can spend unless they have good friend that spends more
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12264 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:05 pm to
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Also plenty of people making 6 figures have large student loans they are paying back.


Waste of time. They’re going to keep pushing the start up back and back until they cancel it all together.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4562 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:09 pm to
This is all according to plan for our oligarchs.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44912 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:11 pm to
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If you are making 6 figures and living paycheck to paycheck you are a moron.


That's household income, a family of 4 in San Francisco is low income at 120K.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Keeping a corporation in business is a net positive to society, it provides jobs, products and services, enables ordinary people to build wealth by being a shareholder. I would rather my tax money bail out a corporation than go to individuals that contribute nothing I society.


Go see what great things corporations have done for communities as soon as they can find a better deal. A crappy job that will disappear in the next streamlining kick doesn't do much and certainly not as much as have a healthy ecosystem of large, mid-sized, and small businesses. "Company towns" very rarely help their denizens for long.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:13 pm to
Humans have the unique ability to spend absolutely any amount of money. You show me a household income, I’ll show you a path to debt.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:14 pm to
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make a little more than six figures. My take home pay wouldn’t cover my families normal expenses. I max out my 401k though.

Live in an a house under $300k. Two cars paid off but getting really old. Two kids in daycare equal to the mortgage.

That’s pretty sad when you think about it. I wonder how everyone else is doing.




The hell are you spending your money on? Even if your childcare and mortgage combined are around $3k a month, you should have another $3k a month or so at least to spend. The hell are you spending your money on?

And I’m assuming your spouse earns half of what you earn and isn’t paying insurance costs. That’s at least another $2-2.5k a month at least if not more than you have. The hell are y’all doing with your money?
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 7:16 pm
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:14 pm to
And 100% of that is by choice.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:15 pm to
good thing we are sending 14 billion (ish, of course 10% off the top to the Big Guy) to Ukraine

Americans don’t need their tax dollars working for them, that would be silly
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11125 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:28 pm to
We often times run across couples that seem to be living way above their means considering what they do for a job. The ones that really make me scratch my head are the ones that I KNOW make less than me and my wife, and they are in a house that's $400k, have new cars, lots of toys like RVs, side by sides, deer leases, fishing camps etc.

More often than not, I eventually find out that they are being heavily subsidized by their parents. These are grownass men and women with children who are still leaching off their parents. Some of them have their mortgage paid for, or cars, or latest smart phones with unlimited plans.

It blows me away.

My parents are retired and my dad worked his arse off. He ended up setting their retirement up really well and he's got way more money than he spends. I would never dream of asking him to pay for my expenses on anything. Hell, when I go to visit them he takes us all out to dinner and I feel bad when he pays the check.

There are also a LOT of people in debt up to their assholes. A neighbor of mine fits the description above to a T. He's got three different toy hauler trailers, motorcycles (road and dirt), a really nice ATV, an RV, and just put in a pool. We were talking and he let slip that they were financing all that shite. If I had his debt I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3948 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:31 pm to
What exactly are does paycheck to paycheck mean here. Like completely broke by the time your next check hits or you occasionally have to pinch pennies. Some months with bigger expenditures are tighter than others
Posted by seeinspots
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:35 pm to
A local news story was done about a group raising money for military families struggling because of the covid pandemic. They were giving groceries away on military bases. The lines of cars were crazy. Cadillac, lexus, acura, honda were all well represented. It was laughable. Were these people struggling? Probably. But not because of any factor beyond their control.
Posted by BigGreenTiger
Member since Mar 2022
794 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:37 pm to
Having debt isn’t bad, having consumer debt is bad.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16768 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:39 pm to
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I make a little more than six figures.



So seven figures?
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11125 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:46 pm to
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What exactly are does paycheck to paycheck mean here. Like completely broke by the time your next check hits or you occasionally have to pinch pennies


That's the way I interpret it.
Posted by CorkRockingham
Member since Jun 2017
502 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:01 pm to
I just had to adjust my W4 because I didn’t realize I was under witholding. My take home after 401k, health insurance, and $250 per check to savings/brokerage account is approximately $5-5.5k a month. I’ll know more when I get the W-4 right.

$1550 mortgage with utilities and internet ($2k)
$1760 daycare
$250 car insurance
$200 life insurance and disability
$1000 food and household supplies and medicines, haircuts, etc
$200 to the church

What’s that like $5400. Before any of your typical non anticipated expenses. I’m ballparking everything abs not being to detailed.

I’m just pointing out the fact that I ain’t living in luxury. I’m content and the Lord has provided well for me. This doesn’t include my wife’s salary which has allowed us to pay off our student loans, build up an emergency fund, buy a house etc, but what would it be without that.

I’m just saying as a professional in America doing the right things and going into STEM doesn’t mean your entitled to be able to have a family and live a comfortable life on that income alone. More of a personal eye opener to me.
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