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re: 57 clergy credibly accused of sexually abusing minors in NO area

Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58271 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:31 pm to
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It's become a part of the fabric of the culture down there.


Yeah, that's why we are required to attend training on such things if you are a volunteer of any kind where you might be around kids. Or why our priest has talked about this horrible abuse of power at least five times in church this year and both he and the Archbishop have sent many communications out about it.

Keep believing your stupidity if it makes you feel better.
And I know much has been done in the past so I'm not trying to bury my head. I would love to crush some skulls of molesting priest.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21592 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:32 pm to
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Yeah because when my wife passed away the first thing I did was find a teenaged boy to meet my needs.


What he is implying is that many good men who would become priests don't do so because they want a wife and a family. It's human nature. They do not seek a celibate lifestyle.

In the past, before it was "okay" to be homosexual, the easiest way to hide it from your family was to go into the priesthood. That would make momma proud and stop all of the questions about why you didn't have a girlfriend.

Now that kids can be openly gay, very few good men want to be a priest. That's the problem that is easily solved by allowing marriage.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68426 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:34 pm to
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very few good men want to be a priest. That's the problem that is easily solved by allowing marriage.
What would the Church do about the inevitable divorces?
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21592 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:37 pm to
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What would the Church do about the inevitable divorces?


Send you on down to the Church of England like they do their parishioners. It's a deal breaker.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58271 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:38 pm to
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What he is implying is that many good men who would become priests don't do so because they want a wife and a family. It's human nature. They do not seek a celibate lifestyle.



This remains my biggest complaint about my religion. I don't care what a bunch of goat herders and the elders decided over the years, a man should be able to be married and have kids and still be a priest.

I argue with my wife all the time about this.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42574 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:40 pm to
WTF is the matter with that organization?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62894 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:46 pm to
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This remains my biggest complaint about my religion. I don't care what a bunch of goat herders and the elders decided over the years, a man should be able to be married and have kids and still be a priest.

I argue with my wife all the time about this.



It's all about being fully dedicated to the church, thus not leaving any time for your potential family.
But, that's just theoretical.
In a secular world, look at college football coaches. They put in 20 hour days and they are still married and have kids.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32739 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:58 pm to
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I don't think the priests molesting boys are going to be fixed by marriage.

You don’t think any of this is caused by a life of “celibacy”? Why else would it be so rampant?
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:59 pm to
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So its time we less these baws get married I don't think the priests molesting boys are going to be fixed by marriage.

IMHO I don’t think marriage is the answer. If they want sex with adults they could find prostitutes male or female.
The fact that they prey on young children that really don’t know what’s going on means they are really evil.
The children were I’m sure raised that if there’s anyone you can trust it would be a priest.
Wrong answer.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24604 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:59 pm to
How does the catholic religion still exist?
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14424 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:59 pm to
Matrimony DEMANDS a 100 per cent commitment of the self to the other. Nothing can be wwithheld. Nothing. Many marriages fail for this reason, the spouses hold back or are selfish, or crazy.

Holy Orders requires the exact same thing. For a priest, nothing can be held back from the Church. Allowing married priests means that the vows of matrimony or the vows of ordination will not be fully lived.
Posted by Wheaux
San Diego
Member since Jul 2018
1748 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:01 pm to
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Was shocked to see my former priest, Howard Hotard named.
At this point, I think Catholics should be more shocked if their priest aren't on these list.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11709 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:03 pm to
I see my first communion priest on that list. The years he was accused are in the time period of my first communion. What a POS.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32739 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:03 pm to
Stupid bullshite like this is why the Catholic Church is becoming antiquated.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73043 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:12 pm to
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How does the catholic religion still exist?


2000 years conditioning itself into the social fabric of the west.
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:16 pm to
My childhood priest is on the list. Not surprised as we were pretty sure something was going on back in the day as many high school aged boys would like to hang out with him at the rectory.

The church doesn't have a pedophile problem it has a gay problem that needs to be addressed if they want to see this stopped.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
453 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Looks like most of those guys were gone as soon as the diocese found out. So in New Orleans at least, there wasn't a Boston-like system of shuffling known predators to other parishes and covering up their crimes.

Not sure how much to trust the details on the list. In the case of Monsignor Hotard, although the list indicates he was removed from the ministry in 2002, his 2013 obituary states he continued to volunteer at St. Josephs Abbey since his retirement 2001. Archbishop Aymond even presided over his funeral. This doesn't sound like someone "removed from the ministry".

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Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:24 pm to
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The church doesn't have a pedophile problem


Oh really. What do you consider a pedophile problem then?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:26 pm to
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You don’t think any of this is caused by a life of “celibacy”? Why else would it be so rampant?


The priesthood was a ideal career path, almost as if by design for someone that was gay, a pedophile or both. This started when homosexuality was considered a mental illness, and anyone that was gay stayed hidden in the closet. Given that situation what better place to be than the priesthood, they could hid in plain sight among men like them, be above reproach, and respected in the community. For a pedophile you had a respected job with access to children, and power over them, better than becoming a janitor at a grade school.
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:26 pm to
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Oh really. What do you consider a pedophile problem the


When somebody molests pre pubescent boys. That's not what is happening in 90% of these cases.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:27 pm
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