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~50% of Soldiers in the US and Canada were abused as children, study indicates

Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:41 am
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About half of Canada's soldiers have a history of child abuse, which is significantly higher than the general population, indicates a new study led by a Manitoba researcher.

The research backs up similar findings in the U.S. which showed a higher prevalence of childhood abuse (of various forms) among the military compared to civilians.


Maybe helps explains the PTSD, and their penchant for violence

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Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:43 am to
this will go swell
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:43 am to
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"It tells us perhaps there might be something going on that is protective by being in the military," said Afifi. "That could be related to selection process where the military may be selecting more resilient individuals."

Passey agreed.

"In the military, we are taught to cope with very stressful situations," he said. "Our military members, despite a history of childhood abuse, would be better at coping with stressful situations and therefore less likely to have suicidal ideations versus the general population."
Posted by High C
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:43 am to
I've taken my son's phone before. Pretty sure he'll go military now.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:43 am to
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Maybe helps explains the PTSD


Or a traumatic situation helps explain Post TRAUMATIC Stress Disorder, Kashonly
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted by zmanthetigerfan
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:44 am to
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The incidence of adults who were abused as children is 31 per cent in the general population,

They never really defined what they call abuse. I feel absolutely horrible for children of abused households, no child should EVER have to go through that, but I don't feel as though 1:3 is starved and beat with electrical cords. What Im asking is do they count spanking as abuse?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:44 am to
It doesn't take a psychiatrist to understand that people leaving home at 18 to go to Afghanistan for relatively low pay may just be trying to get away from something.
Posted by Choctaw
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why do you hate America?
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Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:46 am to
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but I don't feel as though 1:3 is starved and beat with electrical cords.


Abuse isn't always physical abuse though. Neglect is also considered a form of child abuse. Most reports of child abuse...are actually cases of neglect.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:47 am to
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Maybe helps explains the PTSD, and their penchant for violence



I don't think they suffer from PTSD for getting spanked as a child. It may have something to do with their vehicle getting blown up by an IED and seeing their best friends limbs spread all over.
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Posted by zmanthetigerfan
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:48 am to
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Abuse isn't always physical abuse though. Neglect is also considered a form of child abuse. Most reports of child abuse...are actually cases of neglect.

True true, good point
Posted by C
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:51 am to
But there are levels. I've neglected my kids at one point or another but I doubt to the point of actual harm. Studies like this are like climate change declarations. The level of impact matters and that where experts disagree and where the discussion is actually meaningful.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:53 am to
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Abuse isn't always physical abuse though. Neglect is also considered a form of child abuse. Most reports of child abuse...are actually cases of neglect.


And the overall environment of those households. Saw just yesterday, 3 adults smoking in an SUV with a 3 year old boy in a childseat. Grandparents and their Caesar haircut son with a tattoo on his neck. And the father is kind of jerking the kid around getting him out of the seat....no hope for the kid.
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:53 am to
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What Im asking is do they count spanking as abuse?


I'm sure it is a quite broad definition of "abuse" and it probably counts spanking.

I mean, conservatives are more likely to spank children. These children are more likely to join the military.

That could be the explanation right there, without additional extrapolation required.

On the other hand, a lot of lower income kids use the military (wisely) to fund their education or as an alternative to going the trade school then work route. They may have a higher incidence of abuse/neglect based on socio-economic background.
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:57 am to
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But there are levels. I've neglected my kids at one point or another but I doubt to the point of actual harm.


I don't think you understand what "neglect" means in terms of child abuse.


We aren't talking about you missing Billy's soccer game or not spending enough time with him in the evenings.


Neglect refers to stuff like sending your child to school during a winter storm with a tank top and shorts, because they don't own any warm clothes, leaving a 4 year old alone by themselves at home while the mother goes out partying, ignoring a child's illness to the point where they get deathly ill and require an ICU admission because the parents were too busy doing meth.

Those sorts of things are what they mean by "neglect"
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:58 am to
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Posted by BRIllini07
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:01 pm to
How to create a useless statistic:

1) Ask something along the following lines:

At any point of your life have you ever been (circle all that apply)
a. Beaten to the point of measurable bodily harm (broken bones, severe lacerations, etc..)
b. Held without food for a period of >24 hours
c. Spanked
d. Verbally scolded or made to feel bad

2) Count anybody that circled anything in the above question in the "yes" portion of your child abuse study, don't differentiate between who circled which option

3) Relay that message back to the public, highlighting only the most severe of the possible options in the survey "Study shows that 50% of Americans have suffered child abuse, research shows. Participants of a recent survey were asked if they had suffered child abuse, such as 'held without food for days on end' and 'beaten to the point of broken bones'"
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