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re: ~50% of Soldiers in the US and Canada were abused as children, study indicates

Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3147 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:24 pm to
Liar!!
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74660 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

E/51st LRS. Yeah, plenty of Graf and Wildflecken time in between deployments. Still managed to see quite a bit, though not enough. I'd like to take an extended vacation over there to see it at a more relaxed pace.



One of these day's I'd love to go back to Germany and see how Fulda has changed. I'd also love to tour the old border area that separated us from East Germany. I spent a helluva lot of time looking over that border wondering if and when the Russians would come pouring through. Now I'd like to go back and just look at the area and see what all is on the other side.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:14 pm to
WTF

GTFO
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Maybe helps explains the PTSD


Only if they had it prior to military service.

However, I think it may shed some light on their increased suicide rate over that of the civilian population.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49206 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:57 pm to
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I've taken my son's phone before. Pretty sure he'll go military now.

Well played sir, well played.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61595 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:07 pm to
Slapping a child in the face is definitely abuse.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:09 pm to
There is also a much percentage of people who came from poverty in the military compared to the civilian population and poor people are much more likely to abuse their children
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:28 pm to
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Slapping a child in the face is definitely abuse.



Happened to a dude I know

Came home from work to find his 13 y/o daughter in her bedroom with a 16 y/o....of a race he doesn't care for.

kicked the dude out(non-violent), started yelling at his daughter who jumped up and started scratching him and he slapped her.

she called cops, he went to jail for domestic violence against a person under 16 or something like that.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41880 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:34 pm to
How to create a useless statistic:

1) Ask something along the following lines:

At any point of your life have you ever been (circle all that apply)
a. Beaten to the point of measurable bodily harm (broken bones, severe lacerations, etc..)
b. Held without food for a period of >24 hours
c. Spanked
d. Verbally scolded or made to feel bad

2) Count anybody that circled anything in the above question in the "yes" portion of your child abuse study, don't differentiate between who circled which option

3) Relay that message back to the public, highlighting only the most severe of the possible options in the survey "Study shows that 50% of Americans have suffered child abuse, research shows. Participants of a recent survey were asked if they had suffered child abuse, such as 'held without food for days on end' and 'beaten to the point of broken bones'"


Nailed it. Most "studies" in the psych or social work field are useless, at best.

("Poverty" is another abused term in these kind of scams.)
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:51 pm to
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link a study with the direct US stat.


For starters, the rate of child abuse in the general population in the US is 9.4 per 1000 children, or .94%. Even the segment with the highest rate of abuse - children under 1 year - had an abuse rate of 24.4 per 1000 or 2.4%.

When they say "abuse", they cover neglect, physical abuse, psychological maltreatment, and sexual abuse. 75% of cases were classified as neglect and 16% were classified as physical abuse. Sexual abuse and psychological maltreatment make up the rest.

LINK

Additionally, these are the categories that make up the 34% child abuse rate in Canada:



I'm a pretty strong advocate for the wellbeing of children and I understand people cross the line more than they think, but counting "spankings" or getting "grabbed" as abuse is a bit much IMO.

If you're trying to tell me that 50% of soldiers in the military were spanked, I'm not going to argue otherwise. However, when the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services tells me that less than 1 percent of children in the general population are abused by their standards, I'm going to side with them. Getting from 1% of the general population to 50% in the military is one hell of a leap - one that I don't think you should make.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:54 pm to
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Slapping a child in the face is definitely abuse.


Probably. A mother slapping a teen/pre-teen that is mouthing off could be argued as borderline, but there is no reason for a father to slap a child across the face. Sexist or not, slapping is something that a woman does. I'd generally side with it being a abusive but I think you can argue there may be some gray area there.
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