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re: 47 Louisiana churches have left United Methodist Church over gay marriage, LGBTQ issues
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:59 pm to Dawg7730
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:59 pm to Dawg7730
TBF there's a lot open to interpretation and you can find something in the bible to support just about any doctrine. Even the most fundamentalist sects don't take everything literally.
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:00 pm to Jergan Jensen
Our church is leaving and will cost $250,000 to separate.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:03 pm to Jergan Jensen
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:05 pm to Chipand2Putts
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Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye[quote] Catholics have homosexual pedophile priests. All churches on Sunday are full of sinners(drunks, gamblers, adulterers, gluttons)…as Christ intended. Why does the “sin” of homosexuality get so much more publicity and rancor? If churches weren’t led by sinners, we’d have no churches. [quote]For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God
All sinners are called to repent. In the article, a pastor calls homosexuality “divine love,” therefore implying it is not a sin.
Do you want to quote Romans 1:27 or 1 Corinthians 6:9-11?
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:21 pm to Chipand2Putts
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For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God
You seem to have left out the words Christ spoke when he addressed the prostitute who had been caught in the act and brought before him. Her accusers had departed and none remained to push the issue. When he addressed her, he didn't tell her go out and live as you will and then come to church on Sunday because we need sinners in leadership positions there. He told her to "Go, and sin no more."
Christ didn't intend for his church to be filled with drunks, gamblers, adulterers, gluttons, etc. He intended for his church to be filled with saints - people who may have formerly been one or more of these things, but who have repented of that life and died to it to be born again to a new life.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:22 pm to Chipand2Putts
No question churches are filled with and by sinners. However, in marriage Scripture is very clear - man and woman - with Christ as the Head of the union. Condoning same gender marriage is inconsistent with Scripture and worse; makes a mockery of Christ and the bride (the Church). Secondly; no clergy should be clergy if they engage in serial misconduct irrespective the sin
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:26 pm to Jim Rockford
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TBF there's a lot open to interpretation and you can find something in the bible to support just about any doctrine. Even the most fundamentalist sects don't take everything literally.
Not without add, subtracting or taking out of context. It’s pretty clear on the important matters. Problem is people are on a happiness quest not a truth quest.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:27 pm to wfallstiger
Why does it bother so many people what a church they don’t go to decides to do?
SWIDT?
SWIDT?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:28 pm to extremetigerfanatic
I don't know. I pastor a PCUSA church.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:35 pm to Jergan Jensen
Habitually-lapsing Methodist here: I know a couple of very dedicated devout pastors who have really struggled with this issue.
They don’t want kids exposed to drag queens or encouraged to mutilate themselves, but they question denying committed couples the sacrament of marriage when there are questions as to the applicability of Leviticus post-Resurrection and translational ambiguity regarding homosexuality/pederasty.
They don’t want kids exposed to drag queens or encouraged to mutilate themselves, but they question denying committed couples the sacrament of marriage when there are questions as to the applicability of Leviticus post-Resurrection and translational ambiguity regarding homosexuality/pederasty.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:37 pm to extremetigerfanatic
People complaining about people complaining is never not funny.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:38 pm to wfallstiger
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I don't know. I pastor a PCUSA church.
PCUSA's national org makes the UMC look like the Christian Coalition
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:39 pm to extremetigerfanatic
quote:This is a stupid argument
Why does it bother so many people what a church they don’t go to decides to do?
Why worry if people who aren't you get robbed?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:41 pm to Chipand2Putts
quote:Because unlike the alcoholics, gamblers and adulterers, the homosexuals will make no effort to repent.
homosexuality get so much more publicity and rancor?
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:43 pm to Pettifogger
Didn't say I agreed with - said I pastor - am very comfortable exercising my 'liberty of conscience'
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:44 pm to wfallstiger
quote:is that like CPUSA
I pastor a PCUSA church
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:44 pm to Kafka
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Why does it bother so many people what a church they don’t go to decides to do?
This is a stupid argument
Why worry if people who aren't you get robbed?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:44 pm to Jergan Jensen
It’s a focus issue, but other areas like divorce get glossed over like they are no big deal. Southern Baptists only let Charles Stanley continue because he agreed not to re-marry. There are many scriptural issues in the modern church.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:45 pm to gizmothepug
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Gay marriage is one thing
What? On the church level I disagree. With regards to US law, I don’t see how same sex marriage could be banned. The US is not a theocracy.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:53 pm to Jergan Jensen
That article is poorly written. It is not really clear what they voted to do.
Are they leaving to create a new church that adheres to the Book of Discipline which does not accept gay clergy or marriage?
Or are they leaving so they can have those things?
My local UMC will NOT be allowing anything that is non-Biblical. If it does, I will find a church that holds fast to the Word, and pray for those who are leading their flocks astray.
Are they leaving to create a new church that adheres to the Book of Discipline which does not accept gay clergy or marriage?
Or are they leaving so they can have those things?
My local UMC will NOT be allowing anything that is non-Biblical. If it does, I will find a church that holds fast to the Word, and pray for those who are leading their flocks astray.
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