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re: 45% of new grads who actually find jobs, are taking "no degree needed" jobs
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:44 am to shiftworker
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:44 am to shiftworker
Axial, shintech, georgia gulf, a few contractors, and the small plant in the canefield southwest of plaquemine.
I have, so far, refused to ask for any help getting in.
I have, so far, refused to ask for any help getting in.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:45 am to Kujo
I worked for 13 months at LSU performing a full-time job that required a college degree for all potential applicants, yet offered WAE compensation.
It took me 10 months to realize that the department had no immediate intention of making me salaried or eligible for benefits, and they were more than willing to string me along while paying an hourly wage on par with some part-time jobs my friends had while in college.
Even when I worked overtime, I wasn't eligible for time-and-a-half.
Yet, several older members of the department were only required to have passed a civil service test in order to hold their respective positions. They were salaried, received time-and-a-half for overtime, and were of course eligible for all vacation, sick-leave, and employee medical benefits.
shite frickin' sucked.
It took me 10 months to realize that the department had no immediate intention of making me salaried or eligible for benefits, and they were more than willing to string me along while paying an hourly wage on par with some part-time jobs my friends had while in college.
Even when I worked overtime, I wasn't eligible for time-and-a-half.
Yet, several older members of the department were only required to have passed a civil service test in order to hold their respective positions. They were salaried, received time-and-a-half for overtime, and were of course eligible for all vacation, sick-leave, and employee medical benefits.
shite frickin' sucked.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:45 am to Kujo
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The percentage of people who recently attained degrees, but were working in jobs that typically don't require them, rose to 44.9 percent on average in the 12 months through December
When I got out of school I took a no degree needed position. I stayed at that job for a year and got experience, and was then able to land a job that required experience and a degree.
You do what you have to do in order to move up the ladder, don't sit around and cry that you can't find a job because you think that you are above a job that "doesn't require a degree".
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:46 am to Epic Cajun
Many jobs that require degrees can be done by someone without one, and a little OJT.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:46 am to c on z
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When did they get those jobs? Because these days, I'm pretty sure that unless you get a P Tech degree, I can't see people getting those types of jobs that easily
You might have point in regards to my dad, but my cousin got his job less than two years ago.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:49 am to X123F45
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shintech
Best of luck, who you know there, no way else.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:49 am to cfa626
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don't have any experience.
I got turned down for so many jobs due to this.
In one of my interviews it was clear from the beginning I wasn't getting the job when he kept harking on my inexperience in Accounting. I flat out asked the guy how the hell I was supposed to get experience for an entry level job and he literally told me to go volunteer somewhere for a year so I could get my foot in the door.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:51 am to Kujo
No, but hence why I said "work your arse off". Even if they cant hire you, they will more than likely give you a good recommendation for your next employer.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:53 am to Warfarer
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In one of my interviews it was clear from the beginning I wasn't getting the job
Sales job I interviewed for, it was almost immediate that we didn't see eye to eye. Douche kept asking what possessions I dreamed of having, did I want to fly a plane, have a boat, and crap like that.....I only hire people who have expensive hobbies or wants, because they will work to get those things.
I think that was my last sales job interview, and decided to go back after seeing what that world is about.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:01 pm to X123F45
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I have, so far, refused to ask for any help getting in.
It's not about asking for help. If you someone who can make sure that your name is noticed by HR it will make a lot of difference. They're not getting you the job at all. They're just making sure you aren't lost in the sea of applicants.
If you know someone you could have them send an email to HR with a quick note to take a look at your application, or maybe they could hand deliver a hard copy of your résumé.
Just a thought. Couldn't hurt.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:04 pm to shiftworker
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shiftworker
where's your plant?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:05 pm to MSMHater
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The amount of time it would take me to teach a recent business grad about health insurance 101, EMR utilization, HIPAA, HITECH, etc
You could hire a "good" HIM graduate.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:05 pm to Kujo
Basically what I'm kicking myself over right now.. About to graduate with my MS, can't find a job in my field. Yet alone an internship.. I'm pretty much just flooding the market with Apps praying for a bite. No debt and working straight out of HS is looking like the better choice at the moment.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:10 pm to mjax57
The problem is that these students are getting degrees that aren't very marketable. You never hear of somebody graduating with a nursing degree have a hard time finding a job.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:11 pm to redfishfan
A nursing degree is job training though. Most college degrees do not train you for a specific job
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:13 pm to redfishfan
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You never hear of somebody graduating with a nursing degree have a hard time finding a job.
in some markets they do, but yes they can move to an opening.
But you have to also remember that certain degrees have a wait-list or an acceptance program...so not everyone can become a nurse who wants to......this yields higher pay and easier to find positions due to shortage/chance of getting in.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:15 pm to MSMHater
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they don't have any experience.
Jobs today: "seeking virgin with 3 years sexual experience."
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:16 pm to Kujo
My son's GF did this to begin earning quickly. Her eyes are on another job in her discipline when that becomes available! 
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:16 pm to Warfarer
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Accounting. I flat out asked the guy how the hell I was supposed to get experience for an entry level job and he literally told me to go volunteer somewhere for a year so I could get my foot in the door.
entry level CPAs are pretty much slaves so why not just make it official.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:19 pm to BulldogXero
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A nursing degree is job training though. Most college degrees do not train you for a specific job
And? If you want to have a good job out of college get a degree that will provide that.
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